So I let the wife take the car for the day....
#16
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But the worst has to be what the valet guy at a Beverly Hills restaurant gave back to my customer. While the owner was having dinner, the valet somehow managed to wear the clutch disc to its rivets, might even have set it on fire. This was an '87 G 50 car with about 30K miles.
As the flatbed backed up to our service door, the next morning, we could actually smell the burned clutch, before the tow truck driver unloaded the car. When it was apart we found a blue/black flywheel with toasty hot spots; and the pressure plate was almost as bad. The crispy-critter that used to be the clutch disc smelled so bad that we put it outside the building!
Yes, the car's owner took our invoice, and photos, to the restaurant. And, yes, after much complaining, claiming non-responsibility, and being threatened with a law suit, they relented and paid her entire bill. It was a miracle that the transmission had no damage.
#17
Drifting
Do yourself a big favor and instead of doing what was suggested above (if that's the issue), get an OEM short shifter. It is worlds apart from that long thrwoing, clunky stock unit.
#18
My wife recenlty handed back my '87 Carrera with the rubber center separated from the clutch disc. I don't really blame her, although I do keep teasing her about it. Hopefully, it's just your shifter. For me it's going to run around $1500 for the clutch and the "while I'm at its" with me doing all the work.
#19
Burning Brakes
Maybe he should check the coupler bushings first. I put in a WEVO shifter and coupler, and there is no way that a shifter replacement alone would compensate for trashed coupler bushings.
#20
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Not so quick-that can easily hasten the demise of an old trans. Much more exertion is needed to engage gears, and can blow through components. There's nothing wrong with a stock throw, when all components and the adjustment is proper.
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I can't thank you guys enough for the help and the laughs!!
I just told my wife I posted this and read some of your comments to her. Good stuff! Thanks again guys!
I just told my wife I posted this and read some of your comments to her. Good stuff! Thanks again guys!
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#23
Drifting
Agreed that there is nothing "wrong" with stock. By if he is going to change the coupler bushings, while he is at it, chaging to a short throw would enhance his driving experiance. At least it did so for me! I have OEM short throws in both my Targa and C2S and can't say enough about them!
#24
Team Owner
yeah i have a short shift in mine too .. as i am ahem ,, not the tallest guy in the world , i found that having the seat all the way forward and the age of the seat flattening a little the shift into second would actually hit the seat. the short shift fixed this nicely. However Ed is correct. Everything else better be damn perfect because a short shift can only make a bad situation worse.
#25
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I've said this before, but to be clear there are three options for o.e. 911 shifters. (1) 1973 - 1984, (2) Stock 1985/86 (10% shorter throw than pre-'85), or (3) 1986 w/optional super short shifter (20% shorter throw than #1).
At each step shift effort increases. I put an '86 SS in my daily driver a number of years ago. I hated it! The effort, in Los Angeles traffic, was over the top. I took the SS back out, and replaced it with stock 1985 (see #2 above) shifter parts. The 10% shorter throw, combined with a minimum of increased effort, was the perfect mix for me.
After my own experience, I always cautioned customers about the increased effort required with the SS set-up, and most went with the 1985 version as a result. My $0.02.
At each step shift effort increases. I put an '86 SS in my daily driver a number of years ago. I hated it! The effort, in Los Angeles traffic, was over the top. I took the SS back out, and replaced it with stock 1985 (see #2 above) shifter parts. The 10% shorter throw, combined with a minimum of increased effort, was the perfect mix for me.
After my own experience, I always cautioned customers about the increased effort required with the SS set-up, and most went with the 1985 version as a result. My $0.02.
Last edited by Peter Zimmermann; 08-17-2012 at 01:21 PM.
#27
Drifting
I bought the OEM unit from Pelican for my '84. I believe it's 30% less of a throw and have no difficulties in shifting it, although I have heard some have issues. Even my friend I bought the car from, was very impressed by it!
#28
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M 241, factory option code for the super short (SS) o.e. shifter introduced sometime in 1985, gave a throw that was 20% shorter than '84 and earlier models.
#29
Racer
If you ever hand the keys to a wife or girlfriend and their first question is: "what's that third pedal for?" TAKE THE KEYS BACK.