Temp Gauge face
03-04-2012, 09:11 PM
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Temp Gauge face
I use some of these guys products in my Hot Rods...nice stuff and just looked again and they make temp guage templates...
http://stores.newvintageusa-store.co...Categories.bok
http://stores.newvintageusa-store.co...Categories.bok
03-05-2012, 12:33 AM
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If you need numbers readily visible, those will work. Or, you can get close to you gauge, look to the left and see them deep inside the cutout, for reference.
I never had a problem with the stock gauge, once you know the correlation.
I never had a problem with the stock gauge, once you know the correlation.
03-05-2012, 12:22 PM
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Ed, I've looked at those little boogers hiding in the corner...I don't have any real problems but it's nice to have a real numbered gauge for a quick glance...only $29 so one of the cheaper 911 upgrades.
Wasn't someone here or on Pelican selling a similar deal?
Wasn't someone here or on Pelican selling a similar deal?
03-05-2012, 12:25 PM
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I like the numbered gauge. When I replaced mine, the stock one was fading so it was a natural modification. Very easy to do. I like led bulbs, so the led dimmer is interesting.
03-05-2012, 01:36 PM
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03-05-2012, 06:45 PM
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I, like Ed, adjusted to the hash marks quite easily (fading, aside)....I started to mod it,..but am glad I didn't now. Can easily tell you (quickly) what the temp is at any given time....old one is fine for me (and her!).
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03-05-2012, 07:48 PM
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IIRC, the numbered gauges(temp) require a new sender. The temp sensor is calibrated in degrees celsius and will make a not-so-easy to read gauge unless the numbers are celsius. Adding numbers to the gauge in *F requires a new sender. No numbers and a general familiarity with your car gets the message across well. I do like the numbered gauges myself. I'm posting from memory, not a direct reference. Do some research before tapeing a new gauge face on your gauge.
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03-05-2012, 08:55 PM
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IIRC, the numbered gauges(temp) require a new sender. The temp sensor is calibrated in degrees celsius and will make a not-so-easy to read gauge unless the numbers are celsius. Adding numbers to the gauge in *F requires a new sender. No numbers and a general familiarity with your car gets the message across well. I do like the numbered gauges myself. I'm posting from memory, not a direct reference. Do some research before tapeing a new gauge face on your gauge.
03-05-2012, 09:25 PM
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03-05-2012, 09:25 PM
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I like LEDs too. lve refrained from putting them inside the gauges because of the light quality/color and the dimmer situation as well. Porsche gauge lighting has been well researched by the factory and I don't tamper with it. Now I have built some cool(or hot) flashlights.
I think a crayon mark on the gauge glass can be very effective, but there is an easier way. It's an oil change. If you are good at changing your oil, or your shop, then your gauges will tell you a bunch. I always adjust the oil level to mirror the temp gauge. I like the oil level needle pointing directly at the temp needle which should usually be horizontal under normal operating temp. As oil temp goes up so should the level as oil expands when it heats. At a glance across the gauges, you will see whats happening from the info both of these gauges are telling you. The factory knows this and I think the temp curve in the stock sender is good for that reason. You'll never read numbers even if they are there.
I think a crayon mark on the gauge glass can be very effective, but there is an easier way. It's an oil change. If you are good at changing your oil, or your shop, then your gauges will tell you a bunch. I always adjust the oil level to mirror the temp gauge. I like the oil level needle pointing directly at the temp needle which should usually be horizontal under normal operating temp. As oil temp goes up so should the level as oil expands when it heats. At a glance across the gauges, you will see whats happening from the info both of these gauges are telling you. The factory knows this and I think the temp curve in the stock sender is good for that reason. You'll never read numbers even if they are there.
03-05-2012, 09:36 PM
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Gauge inserts.
I changed the white/red insert on our '86 to a numbered insert and the values are spot on with the existing sender.
03-05-2012, 10:37 PM
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I like LEDs too. lve refrained from putting them inside the gauges because of the light quality/color and the dimmer situation as well. Porsche gauge lighting has been well researched by the factory and I don't tamper with it. Now I have built some cool(or hot) flashlights.
I think a crayon mark on the gauge glass can be very effective, but there is an easier way. It's an oil change. If you are good at changing your oil, or your shop, then your gauges will tell you a bunch. I always adjust the oil level to mirror the temp gauge. I like the oil level needle pointing directly at the temp needle which should usually be horizontal under normal operating temp. As oil temp goes up so should the level as oil expands when it heats. At a glance across the gauges, you will see whats happening from the info both of these gauges are telling you. The factory knows this and I think the temp curve in the stock sender is good for that reason. You'll never read numbers even if they are there.
I think a crayon mark on the gauge glass can be very effective, but there is an easier way. It's an oil change. If you are good at changing your oil, or your shop, then your gauges will tell you a bunch. I always adjust the oil level to mirror the temp gauge. I like the oil level needle pointing directly at the temp needle which should usually be horizontal under normal operating temp. As oil temp goes up so should the level as oil expands when it heats. At a glance across the gauges, you will see whats happening from the info both of these gauges are telling you. The factory knows this and I think the temp curve in the stock sender is good for that reason. You'll never read numbers even if they are there.
I understand the volume/ heat issue...always pays to check your oil level at the same temp.
03-05-2012, 10:44 PM
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It seems pretty easy to correlate needle position to temp, without needing numbers. I could tell at a split second glance while driving at the limit on the track (in high 90's temps, in Texas) when I needed to consider cutting a session short.
03-05-2012, 11:53 PM
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I think it's an issue similar to the gas gauge.
Since the sender is calibrated for liters, not US gallons, the scale on the fuel gauge face must be skewed to track with the needle sweep, which is not linear. If the temp gauge is to be linear when read in F, the temp sender must be calibrated. Otherwise, yes you can make the temp gauge face track non-linearly with the needle.
Since the sender is calibrated for liters, not US gallons, the scale on the fuel gauge face must be skewed to track with the needle sweep, which is not linear. If the temp gauge is to be linear when read in F, the temp sender must be calibrated. Otherwise, yes you can make the temp gauge face track non-linearly with the needle.
03-06-2012, 08:25 PM
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I think it's an issue similar to the gas gauge.
Since the sender is calibrated for liters, not US gallons, the scale on the fuel gauge face must be skewed to track with the needle sweep, which is not linear. If the temp gauge is to be linear when read in F, the temp sender must be calibrated. Otherwise, yes you can make the temp gauge face track non-linearly with the needle.
Since the sender is calibrated for liters, not US gallons, the scale on the fuel gauge face must be skewed to track with the needle sweep, which is not linear. If the temp gauge is to be linear when read in F, the temp sender must be calibrated. Otherwise, yes you can make the temp gauge face track non-linearly with the needle.