Fair price for a '73 911 w/3.2 engine
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I've got a '73 911 with a 3.2lit engine from an '85 Carrera. Excellent shape and 52k miles on engine. Mods to make RS-like was done back in 1989. Two owner car and service history with one man, Gene Kirschner of Autohaus from whom I bought the car. Some mods like SSI, upgraded torsion and sways. Otherwise stock.
What price is fair if I sell?
What price is fair if I sell?
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Without pics, specs, and details of current condition and what the modifications are, any number is a wild-assed guess. Even with more data, it is still a WAG.
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Duh. Should I keep this one or give it up for $____?
I'm really happy with it but after getting an 05 GT3 my wife gave me a command- "Choose one!". Yes, I know some of you guys will say 'have a nice life wifey'. Let me at least know what I can get for this '73.
I'm really happy with it but after getting an 05 GT3 my wife gave me a command- "Choose one!". Yes, I know some of you guys will say 'have a nice life wifey'. Let me at least know what I can get for this '73.
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Well, it has certainly lost the value a stock '73 would have today. It almost looks like a quasi SC/Carrera halfway backdated to me. I'll give up...anything I'd offer up would be a guess. If it is really nice, and mechanically sound....I don't know....high teens to mid-20's? No clue here.
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As a molested 1973 car (probably a 911T) it is worth what someone will pay. I know that's a worthless answer but you have a couple of things working against you. It's not anywhere near stock (e.g. rear Carrera fenders and non-73 front air dam plus a 3.2 engine vice a 2.4 mechanical injection or maybe 1973+1/2 CIS engine) and the economy is in the toilet right now.
I've been trying to move two good cars lately but have frankly given up for a while because the economy is not condusive to a reasonable price.
I would suggest to the wife that this is a terrible time to sell the 1973 and that you would do much better selling it in perhaps 18 months--and take her on a cruise with the extra money you can make on it then. Ask her to be patient.
I've been trying to move two good cars lately but have frankly given up for a while because the economy is not condusive to a reasonable price.
I would suggest to the wife that this is a terrible time to sell the 1973 and that you would do much better selling it in perhaps 18 months--and take her on a cruise with the extra money you can make on it then. Ask her to be patient.
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Guys. Appreciate your inputs and agree I should hold for at least another year. It's still a rare 911 which I bought nearly 5 years a go because of the R Gruppe look. The 3.2 engine is sound with only 52k miles and serviced by Gene Kirschner of Autohaus NJ since the mid-80s. Gene is a head tech at Northern NJ (NNJR) and has been a member of the club since late 70s. Maybe I will remove duck and front fender to replace with originals but it would break my heart as both pieces could be Porsche factory stuff as they were added to car in 80s when I don't believe there were any 3rd party porsche stuff in the US. Joe (Turbo) if $26 is not too unreasonable we can talk. Otherwise I'm convinced to hang on and tell my wife that I must heed to the collective wisdom of this board!
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Here is the deal, it's worth what someone who wants such a car strokes a check for. I know not much help, but it's a car that's not original. I'd put it up for sale with a high price so that it wont sell and tell your wife gee know one seems to want it lol. She will get used to having 2 around.
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Looks like a nicely done RS conversion to me, the early cars with a later model engine are a very nice combination if you ask me. Really well done conversions can certainally be worth more than a stock T poorly done ones worth less. The market is lousy but you'll never know if the correct buyer exists until you put it up for sale. So my reccomendation is to put a price on it that would make happier if you had the money in the bank vs that car in your garage put a few ads together and see what happens. You need to market car where early 911 guys hang out (not Rennlist) Pelican, early S registry, ebay etc.
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The nose is likely an AIR or Mitcom piece, they were the major players from the mid-70s. Though my friend did score a front bumper off of Peter Gregg's car. (See photo, this car has more RS parts than most RSs.) Ducktail original? Hen's teeth if so. Look for a steel or Aluminum base. Bonus points if the car has real RS flares, which were commonly available 25 years ago, as opposed to SC ones.
Bottom line is that mid-$20s is pretty accurate for the nicer of the faux RSs. (I abhore the R Gruppe thing and what it's become, being there with Cris Huergas chatting about 911s in the cold, windy College of Alameda parking lot in 1980 and knowing what the original intent was.)
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Given the choice between a modded '73 T and a '05 GT3, I'd definitely go withe the GT3. And I'm very partial to the older cars.
In this market I'd guesstimate a fair selling price for your T as it sits is around $18K, assuming there are no rust issues. If the car was 100% stock, it would be worth considerably more.
With that said and considering that the car has rear flares, if your T had a '73 Carrera RS style front valence, stock "S" aluminum rocker moldings and deco strips on both ends you would enhance the value more that the cost of those items. You would then have a touring Carrera RS look (like the one pictured above) which is pretty cool and you would likely find a larger buyer base.
In this market I'd guesstimate a fair selling price for your T as it sits is around $18K, assuming there are no rust issues. If the car was 100% stock, it would be worth considerably more.
With that said and considering that the car has rear flares, if your T had a '73 Carrera RS style front valence, stock "S" aluminum rocker moldings and deco strips on both ends you would enhance the value more that the cost of those items. You would then have a touring Carrera RS look (like the one pictured above) which is pretty cool and you would likely find a larger buyer base.
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Good pieces of advice. Only issue with the bring the front to stock or '73 RS like may mean I may need to undo front oil cooler which would be a shame since I hear the plumbing work is not easy. It does work well on track too and even for long drives where oftentimes I hit pockets of traffic Suc as construction work and never once did I find the temp to go beyond worrying levels.