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07-30-2010, 10:21 AM
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73.5 question...
I didn't want to hijack the other thread.. so here it is..
Are the 73.5 CIS's any different from the rest of the 70-73 cars? I am going to look at one tomorrow and it seems like it has been repainted and interiors redone at some point. The owner says there is some little rust but I have no photos of the car except for one from the rear. It is priced at 12k, is it even worth looking?
Are the 73.5 CIS's any different from the rest of the 70-73 cars? I am going to look at one tomorrow and it seems like it has been repainted and interiors redone at some point. The owner says there is some little rust but I have no photos of the car except for one from the rear. It is priced at 12k, is it even worth looking?
I've seen some Ts starting in the mid 20s and going into the 40s according to year and condition. E cars with mechanical injection being price higher than the T, and I've seen some S prices ranging from 50 thousand to 100 thousand according to condition, mileage and authenticity.
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I didn't want to hijack the other thread.. so here it is..
Are the 73.5 CIS's any different from the rest of the 70-73 cars? I am going to look at one tomorrow and it seems like it has been repainted and interiors redone at some point. The owner says there is some little rust but I have no photos of the car except for one from the rear. It is priced at 12k, is it even worth looking?
Are the 73.5 CIS's any different from the rest of the 70-73 cars? I am going to look at one tomorrow and it seems like it has been repainted and interiors redone at some point. The owner says there is some little rust but I have no photos of the car except for one from the rear. It is priced at 12k, is it even worth looking?
07-30-2010, 03:19 PM
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Each of my two brothers bought '73.5 CIS 911s new. Each car had virtually zero issues (I maintained both), and each car made it to about 110,000 miles before a valve job was needed. Both cars delivered very high mileage with their clutch, both cars did not have any transmission trouble, and both cars were expertly driven.
I can safely say, having maintained a large number of them over extended periods of time, that this model is one of Porsche's finer efforts. And, as Steve wrote, a PPI by someone who knows the early CIS cars is absolutely mandatory.
I can safely say, having maintained a large number of them over extended periods of time, that this model is one of Porsche's finer efforts. And, as Steve wrote, a PPI by someone who knows the early CIS cars is absolutely mandatory.
07-30-2010, 08:50 PM
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And there's early CIS, and then there's THAT CIS. Sure didn't take them long to figure out leaving the injectors mounted in the head ala the MFI cars wasn't such a great idea............
As far as rust, yeah, it's starts and stops there. We sold a zero rust '73 1/2 Targa a couple of months ago for $15K. Basically a two owner car (friend, and before that his dad owned it since '78) that hadn't run much since the mid '80s. And always stored indoors. But realistically it was $5-10K in parts and sublet paint away from being a really good car.
Funny thing about driving the car though is that it's just so blah, even lazy, as I'm used to all of my 3.6L cars. Doesn't want to rev, with that 7.5:1 compression engine and extremely mild cams. Decent torque, but in today's world I think it's really lacking. Almost like what I thought a 356 1600 Normal was in relation to a good 2.2T w/ Webers "back in the day."
I spent the afternoon today ripping into my '73 1/2 T, though it's getting to be just a shell. Was nice to pick and poke at this zero rust car, too. Too nice to be a wheel-to-wheel car in today's world, kind of too much of a pain to bring it back as a street car for me.
As far as rust, yeah, it's starts and stops there. We sold a zero rust '73 1/2 Targa a couple of months ago for $15K. Basically a two owner car (friend, and before that his dad owned it since '78) that hadn't run much since the mid '80s. And always stored indoors. But realistically it was $5-10K in parts and sublet paint away from being a really good car.
Funny thing about driving the car though is that it's just so blah, even lazy, as I'm used to all of my 3.6L cars. Doesn't want to rev, with that 7.5:1 compression engine and extremely mild cams. Decent torque, but in today's world I think it's really lacking. Almost like what I thought a 356 1600 Normal was in relation to a good 2.2T w/ Webers "back in the day."
I spent the afternoon today ripping into my '73 1/2 T, though it's getting to be just a shell. Was nice to pick and poke at this zero rust car, too. Too nice to be a wheel-to-wheel car in today's world, kind of too much of a pain to bring it back as a street car for me.
07-30-2010, 08:53 PM
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I will definitely get a PPI, it has about 70k. The rust part is what's bothering me. The owner says there is some rust, I just need to figure out if it's something that I want to deal with or walk away from it.
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07-31-2010, 03:58 AM
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Each of my two brothers bought '73.5 CIS 911s new. Each car had virtually zero issues (I maintained both), and each car made it to about 110,000 miles before a valve job was needed. Both cars delivered very high mileage with their clutch, both cars did not have any transmission trouble, and both cars were expertly driven.
I can safely say, having maintained a large number of them over extended periods of time, that this model is one of Porsche's finer efforts. And, as Steve wrote, a PPI by someone who knows the early CIS cars is absolutely mandatory.
I can safely say, having maintained a large number of them over extended periods of time, that this model is one of Porsche's finer efforts. And, as Steve wrote, a PPI by someone who knows the early CIS cars is absolutely mandatory.
While not delivering the hi revving power of the E or S model of the time, for a touring car it is hard to beat. Starts easily, runs nicely, enough torque low down to keep you moving, fuel consumption is not outrageous. Rust is an issue but the lower parts of the car have some rust protection so all is not lost.
I have had mine since 2001 and about 35,000 miles of smiles.
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Ok.. saw the car today.. forgot to take the camera, so no pictures 
.. Anyway here's the thing, the car has the S trim with the valence. The owner says he has taken care of the valve guides, cleaned up the fuel tank(boiled) and the fuel distributer redone. The body definitely needs some TLC, there is rust on the cowl and couple of spots on the surface. pretty much needs to be stripped down and repainted. The engine was strong but we couldn't get too far because of either lack of fuel or a blocked fuel filter..so it was a stop and go. I will be going back again next weekend if it's not sold by then for a test run again. It's a 4 speed though.. The other car listed on ebay (the 1980 white SC looks good as well).. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...item20b2775a06
wife likes this one as it's a low maintenance mistress..
.. Anyway here's the thing, the car has the S trim with the valence. The owner says he has taken care of the valve guides, cleaned up the fuel tank(boiled) and the fuel distributer redone. The body definitely needs some TLC, there is rust on the cowl and couple of spots on the surface. pretty much needs to be stripped down and repainted. The engine was strong but we couldn't get too far because of either lack of fuel or a blocked fuel filter..so it was a stop and go. I will be going back again next weekend if it's not sold by then for a test run again. It's a 4 speed though.. The other car listed on ebay (the 1980 white SC looks good as well).. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...item20b2775a06wife likes this one as it's a low maintenance mistress
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