henry959

Hi,

I need advice...
One of my friend's is selling his 1974 911S coupe with a 3.2 engine, but it has 3.0 heads and dual webber carbs.
I am considering to purchase it and make it into Porsche hot rod, but i have always had people telling me to get 1973 S, T or E or 1970 car..

can someone please explain is there that much difference... as far as chassy goes
for weekend driving and at times autocrosssing

Thanks

wpriller

Price wise 1970 to 73 cars are becoming somewhat pricey if they are in good shape and with matching numbers, be they T, E or S. A 74 car should be price reasonable even with a 3.0 or 3.2 engine. You may want to consider an SC with matching numbers because price wise they haven't taken off yet, and their are some nice ones out there to be had.

race911

No, there's not that much difference in the chassis of any '69-'89 car. Suspension geometry-wise. And as above, the price differential pre/post 1974 is getting to be huge.

As far as an autocross car? Pretty much anything can go out there and be driven around. To be competitive with an modified/engine swap car you start getting into seriously prepared cars.

Ultimately, it comes down to YOU wanting THIS car, and if the price makes sense.

Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems

Sounds like it might really be a neat car, depending on condition of course. 74's were pretty light (same as '73) and the chassis has some significant improvements over the earlier ones.

You'll want a thorough PPI done to prevent any surprises.

whalebird

I agree with race911 and Steve W. Those guys really know their stuff - the oracle(s) have spoken. Sounds like a promising car to start with and, if well sorted, would be a blast to drive. A 74 can be made into a very sneaky-fast car and is one of my top picks for a hot rod. If you have some pictures, post them up here and keep us informed as to the details of this car. Sounds like fun
Did anyone mention get a PPI? yes and they are spot on, everyone in this community would urge the PPI.

mck911

If I recall, 74's were under 2,400 lbs...??? I should probably know this....

This car could be a blast to drive, assuming no big issues with rust and ppi checks out.

race911

2575 per the Club Racing rulebook, but I think that's with 150lbs. driver allowance now. So that's still around 2400, then add back what the Al 3.2 weighs v. the Mg 2.7. If I remember at all correctly, my friend's '74 with a CIS 3.0 (the guy who actually owns the 910), was right around 2500 last time we had it on the scales.

sriki

How pricey are they right now (range) ??

wpriller

I've seen some Ts starting in the mid 20s and going into the 40s according to year and condition. E cars with mechanical injection being price higher than the T, and I've seen some S prices ranging from 50 thousand to 100 thousand according to condition, mileage and authenticity.

Evan Fullerton

My Dad's 75' (soon to be mine if I can find a buyer for my 993) was right at 2400lb with the original mag case 915, 3.2L cased 3.0L, 16"x6" and 16X7" fuchs, no external oil cooler, and an RS carpet kit and 1/2 tank of gas. The car is a blast but needed the an external cooler which has since added some weight since then. For the money, it is hard to go wrong with a mid year car with a later motor. Most prefer the look of the early cars but for the price differential, it is hard to justify. For comparison to an early car, in talking with my Dad, we figure his car with 30k miles on a rebuilt engine, 2k miles on rebuilt trans, gone through suspension with lots of elephant racing parts but a sudo rat rod in appearance it is only worth about $9k.

The last 3 autocrosses I have done in it I have had 5th fastest time of day, and first in PAX so it is respectably quick and we have a pretty good region as far as drivers and fast cars.

rusnak

would that '74 be competing in some sort of Open class? I agree with Race911. You might want to contemplate that some more.

g-50cab

The 74's are the "new" long hood. trust me on this...

<------------------------- My 1974s

mck911

+1. Carrera quarters are on mine, respray is complete and now it's time to put it all back together.

Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems

JMHO, but I think you're right.

With their light weight, no emissions equipment, competent chassis, and good performance (no matter what motor is used), its a good car on its own as well as an excellent foundation for a 'hot rod",...

race911

Since we're waxing nostalgic on '74s.............here's what I think is the ultimate one, street version anyway. Even if we couldn't get one here. And what I sorta replicated my first 911 off of, with the best L.A. fiberglass money could buy in the early '80s.

From the Monterey Historics, 1988. Also note Cris Huergas (Mr. RGruppe himself, years before it became a reality, but he'd had the idea since we'd met in 1980) in the background.

(Also, gratuitous photo of the one '74 I had, after it got messed around with.)