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Old 11-08-2008 | 03:20 AM
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We all know that the Germans are pretty good in the design and manufacturing of bikes and cars, and the FW and Trimotor, and Messerschmitts were astounding for the time. Porsche is a case in point. Some great wagons have been designed by the Porsche folks. PUN

However, today I got some more learning about American engineering that makes the problematic German engineering functional. No, not what us smart guys own, the SC and Carrera, but the troubled Boxster and 996 and elderly 914.

I understand this may be out of whack for the 911 discussion, however, I want to say that the more I learn, the more our cars justify the respect.

So to the chase, there was a 1999 996 in SF for $12,000 with a bad engine. Then there was another 1999 is L.A. for $8000. I set up a look see for this car and went on the information hunt. Here is what made my day a happy one. I talked to 3 facilities today and got splendid information about parts, special tools, and repair work from all of them. The 2nd person, Charles at LN Engineering gave me the # of Jake Raby in Georgia. I had heard of Raby, and I now look forward to reading about him in the December issue of Excellence Magazine. I talked to him and learned how he has overcome the 914, Boxster and 996. Dynos, special tool manufacture(like to put the piston pin clips in inside and at the far end of the thing), repair kits, schools, builder, designer, engineer. This is another case where American need is met by American smarts, and another fellow citizen we are fortunate to have.

However, for those who own the aircooled 911, I again say, it sure does make sense.

Oh, the guy with the 996 called as I was leaving my driveway to go see the car. He wanted to rethink his situation about selling the car. GREAT NEWS for me cause I think I would have bought it.

A very happy day indeed.
Old 11-08-2008 | 06:32 PM
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Old 11-08-2008 | 08:18 PM
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But the Brits have apparently solved the early 996 / Boxster engine problems too.
Old 11-08-2008 | 10:22 PM
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Jake and Charles get some good press in the article by Jim Pasha in December's Excellence. It is a well-written compendium of known issues with the M96 engine and also highlights some solutions being brought to market by Jake and Charles. It was just a matter of time until the aftermarket kicked in to help this engine along.

Autofarm in the UK is also published in the matter of the M96 engine as already mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Rinty
But the Brits have apparently solved the early 996 / Boxster engine problems too.
They also solved the engine problem with the early P-51 Mustangs...



Wait, what were we talking about?
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But the Brits have apparently solved the early 996 / Boxster engine problems too.
But N. Georgia is a bit closer to me than England .
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And to think they are just a few miles away from my house. I'm nearly giddy
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Step away from the bottle.
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Ed Hughes::
Step away from the bottle
Thanks for the tip about alcohol. I don’t drink, so unfortunately this is not the quick answer for an eclectic and eccentric person who does not write in an easily discernible manner at times. I will have a poof reader in the future to assure top quality presentation of my views.------ have a good day Ed
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I dont understand this post but thats one kick *** mustang!!!!
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Originally Posted by jakeflyer
Ed Hughes::

Thanks for the tip about alcohol. I don’t drink, so unfortunately this is not the quick answer for an eclectic and eccentric person who does not write in an easily discernible manner at times. I will have a poof reader in the future to assure top quality presentation of my views.------ have a good day Ed
Geez, it was a joke. As noted in a few other posts here, I'm not the only one who is having trouble figuring out just what this thread is supposed to be about. Maybe this should've been in OT for other eclectic/eccentrics to view?
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I thought ypu did great jake. I've been reading flat6's website all afternoon. This is really good stuff for us water pumper lovers. Raby also builds the best 4 banger air cooled engines in the world
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Jake:

I take it, from your original post, that you're thinking of buying a 996 with a bad engine. Before you go down that road, you may want to read the October and September issues of "Total 911", where they describe their experiences with their "Project 996", a very interesting horror story.

The "Brit" expertise I was referring to in my post, is with the Hartech firm in Bolton. We don't have the December issue of "Excellence" yet, but it appears that Brit and American ingenuity are working apace on these problems.


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