Mike Murphy

Good, because there is a small change that you'll end up really liking the 997 .

Amber Gramps

Murphy, the big reason is that it doesn't snap your neck off going into second gear. It is just way too plush. It's all luxury and no raw. OK OK so I'd take it, but at $80,000 it better get four wifes all gigly.

Mike Murphy

I'm thinking you might have driven a dog 997. Because when I tested a "slower" 300hp 996, the force pushing me back into the seat was substantial enough to remind me of my 400HP Nova in 2nd gear. Additionally, I distinctly remembered how light the front end of this 996 was when using all this throttle and it scared me a little bit. Not at all like my old 3.2, where I could use all throttle and have plenty of grip on the front end coming out of a turn...

My fiancee' said that she has never been is such a powerful car in all her life.

I'm not trying to get you to see the value of a 996 or 997, because not liking these newer 911s is very good on the wallet . But they are powerfull!!

Amber Gramps

Take the boss out of the car and let me drive alone and I'm sure I would see the light. Don't think for a second that the cars have not improved over time. I'd take that car in a heart beat. Every Year the two guys that own this place give the salesmen a chance to purchase the "used" cars rather than trading them in. I know of a Tahoe, a Suburban, a Mustang, and a Mercedes that have gone home with some of my so-workers. now with the 997 and the Corvette that are parked right outside as we speak, they will be the next discards to be offered to us lowly salesman. One of the owners has an H3 that is going next.
anyway, the 997 is no dog...

Peter Zimmermann

It's funny, when you look at that picture you certainly don't see twenty years difference in age! But when the new one is out of warranty I shudder to think of what it will cost to maintain/repair - especially now that dealers like Beverly Hills P&A are flirting with labor rates in the $160/hr range. All of a sudden that pretty '88 is starting to look even better!

Amber Gramps

My boss aske me to ask the dealer (Walter's) about his key that stopped working when I was on my way out to pick up sway bar rubbers. The key was $170. He had to take the car and all the keys in 'cause the program is sent down from outer space..........

m491driver

I've had an '85 and an '87 and I liked both but I really liked the '87s hydraulic clutch. I don't hear many folks mention the clutch.

Peter Zimmermann

m491: The clutch is a strange thing, the cable system ('85) actually requires a bit of effort to get right. If the cable is aged, or worse yet, aftermarket, or the omega spring is broken, or the pedal helper spring is broken, or if it's simply out of adjustment, it will probably feel terrible. On the other hand the hydraulic unit ('87) will feel great if the clutch is in good order and the throw out bearing and its operating fork have been updated. In other words, the chance of coming across an '85 that's not as pleasant as it should be to operate is great, but a properly set up cable operated clutch will always feel as good or better than a G 50 clutch with 30K miles on it.

jakeflyer

Thanks Pete. I have over run the note section in the back of your book to have a permanent record of the information here. I am going to a packet so I have it all in one place. Excellent.

Peter Zimmermann

Jake: