Need a clutch ...dang it!!
#136
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this thread is a bit hard to swallow - the "clutch job" turns into a pretty nasty can of worms and "while your in there's"
watching and reading, a little nervous - money adding up.. great job rus
watching and reading, a little nervous - money adding up.. great job rus
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And Douglas questions my $ Figure for what a rebuild costs? This is exactly why. If you can turn a clutch job into a $2K (or higher) project, think how quickly the $ pile on when you split a case. The "might as well replace its" come at you at warp speed.
#138
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Really these things can be small, like the bushings, and those sensors are unbeatable in price. A little patience and a lot of research helps, but putting a collar on your "wants" vs. "needs" is a chore.
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Yeah, I went into this with a $2K budget in mind. I'm actually doing well because I found the clutch kit at a good price (The Race Line), the fuel lines from Zims (thanks to Kirk) at a great price, and the sensors at a 50% discount from stock from Paragon. I also put aside a little money from time to time into a 911 maintenance fund if you will, so it wasn't a shock. I'd be hurtin' if I didn't do that. I never did mention the price I got for the flywheel and clutch kit from The Race Line, but suffice to say it's 50% LESS than a popular Porsche catalog retailer.
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#140
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Unless I missed something in this thread, You may have been fine with the same flywheel. Your doing the right thing, but you are paying for some piece of mind as well. There are variable costs in these projects.
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WB, I conceed that I replaced the flywheel and probably the clutch disc and even pressure plate earlier than needed. The only failure was the throwout bearing, really. But the mileage is the kicker for me - I am definitely paying for peace of mind. The car has about 310K miles now, and I bought it at around 150K +/- miles. The engine is not burning a lot of oil, and the valves look clean. I did not want to drive to the point of failure given the use, which is commutes to the coast, to the SF Bay Area, and So Cal. I will be doing a project that will require commutes to Bakersfield, and the 911 is perfect for these trips given the gas mileage, small size, and the fact that I do not take passengers with me (work related) most of the time. That is why I went way overboard and pulled the trigger on brake hoses, fuel hoses, all three sensors, and clutch cable. I have to avoid getting stranded in the middle of nowhere, and I live in the middle of BFE. I figure, get the maintenance done and out of the way now. But hey!!! Does anyone need a slightly used clutch and flywheel???
#143
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I hope the weather is cooperating rus. I've always looked at the "carnies" setting up the local fair rides in the late fall and though, "rain, cold, and grease don't mix".
"Yup, we got 'er up in record time, $3 and ride all you want"...no thanks.
"Yup, we got 'er up in record time, $3 and ride all you want"...no thanks.
#144
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We had carnies all the way through the 31rst of Dec. at our little outdoor fair. Those guys are like animals, and they live in some terrible accomodations.
It got up to a sultry 43F today, as measured on the rear fender of the 911 with the IR thermometer. I am inside warming up, then back out to clean up my tools. I got the seats out, the suspension back on but not adjusted, and just waiting for parts to get her finished up. I spent the day cleaning cleaning cleaning with little wire brushes.
Even after the engine is in, I have to adjust the clutch cable, adjust the closed and wot throttle switches, check the adjustment of the clutch pedal switch, adjust the throttle cable, and then take her out and then re-torque the front wheel bearing pinch bolts and the CV bolts. I also have to bleed the brakes, adjust the parking brake cables, and replace the hood and engine lid struts. It takes a lot of time to do the little things right, and I never really understood how people say that engine drops are "fast".
I remember one comment that WB made that stuck with me regarding the fasteners, and how the sould of the car somehow lives in the proper torque settings for the bolts and nuts that hold the car together. So true.
It got up to a sultry 43F today, as measured on the rear fender of the 911 with the IR thermometer. I am inside warming up, then back out to clean up my tools. I got the seats out, the suspension back on but not adjusted, and just waiting for parts to get her finished up. I spent the day cleaning cleaning cleaning with little wire brushes.
Even after the engine is in, I have to adjust the clutch cable, adjust the closed and wot throttle switches, check the adjustment of the clutch pedal switch, adjust the throttle cable, and then take her out and then re-torque the front wheel bearing pinch bolts and the CV bolts. I also have to bleed the brakes, adjust the parking brake cables, and replace the hood and engine lid struts. It takes a lot of time to do the little things right, and I never really understood how people say that engine drops are "fast".
I remember one comment that WB made that stuck with me regarding the fasteners, and how the sould of the car somehow lives in the proper torque settings for the bolts and nuts that hold the car together. So true.
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Quick question: Should I do a valve adjustment before putting the engine back in? Last one was about 4 months before I took the engine out. But it WOULD be easy, and I DO have a spare gasket kit.
Your opinions are welcome. Thanks.
Your opinions are welcome. Thanks.
#146
Oh, and I did mine a few months ago, too.
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So, today I was installing the new throwout fork, planning to join the engine tomorrow when parts are due to arrive.....and the rollpin I ordered is wayy too large. I think for a second about going to OSH to get one, but on second thought, I'll just get one from Porsche. What's another day, right?
I got the old one out, cleaned it up. This thing has well over 150K miles of use on it, but it looks practically new! No cracks, no signs of fatigue, and the wear is only very slight where it engages the throwout bearing. I'm starting to wonder why the only parts on this whole car that show any signs of wear at all are the brakes, tires, and the old throwout bearing. The clutch, pressure plate, and flywheel also look new. Either I'm the type who never flogs his 911, or I don't so much as wrinkle the sheets when having sex. And I have government documents and eyewitnesses that say that ain't true (Former/ latter).
So, how long do the clutch parts normally last anyway?
I got the old one out, cleaned it up. This thing has well over 150K miles of use on it, but it looks practically new! No cracks, no signs of fatigue, and the wear is only very slight where it engages the throwout bearing. I'm starting to wonder why the only parts on this whole car that show any signs of wear at all are the brakes, tires, and the old throwout bearing. The clutch, pressure plate, and flywheel also look new. Either I'm the type who never flogs his 911, or I don't so much as wrinkle the sheets when having sex. And I have government documents and eyewitnesses that say that ain't true (Former/ latter).
So, how long do the clutch parts normally last anyway?