Interesting 1989 C4 on Ebay -- no reserve
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I pity those that must have a roof over their heads to feel secure. Drive topless or don't drive at all!
(ok, all you coupe drivers, I'm just kidding... don't eat me alive... just trying to cheer up the future Targa owner!)
(ok, all you coupe drivers, I'm just kidding... don't eat me alive... just trying to cheer up the future Targa owner!)
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The C4 has a heavier feel to me. It is very planted and sure-footed. It probably saved our butts on a curve that had a whole bunch of gravel on the pavement.
It felt more like most cars I've driven. In otherwords, it has some understeer.
The 3.2 has "none." It just goes around the curve and you aren't fighting any understeer. In fact, I find myself cutting corners too sharp because I expect to feel the car pull and it doesn't.
On the otherhand... holy sh**, Batman, the back end will get happy if you let it! You are probably doomed if you hit the curve too fast and panic and let off the gas or (gasp!) hit the brake. It hasn't happened to me yet but that is the consensus on the rear-wheel drive 911s. They have oversteer if you let off the power.
I liked the C4 a lot. I liked mine a lot. They were clearly different animals. But both were pretty darn fantastic and fun. I had more confidence in the C4 but I liked the feel of mine more. My car felt lighter and more agile I guess. More raw. And in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing and isn't peeing their pants out of fear of oversteering the beast into a tail spin... I'm thinking a 3.2 is hard to beat
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Sure is fun in the twisties.
I liked the gear shift in the C4. It's a shorter lever with shorter throws than my 3.2. (note: Both have the G50 and hydraulic clutch)
My clutch was more friendly -- not so stiff.
The C4 has a better heating/cooling system. Better controls. More modern switches on the dash, better idiot lights.
If you like to attack twisty roads, I'd suggest you do a test drive of a C4 and a C2 (or 3.2) before you buy. They are quite a bit different. I like both. I have to think if you are an experienced driver (autocross, done DE schools, etc) then you may come away liking the C2/3.2. If not, the understeer of the C4 will feel more natural.
And one more thing... you can always tune out a lot of the understeer with suspension modifications. You will have a harder time tuning out the oversteer of a C2/3.2. But then again, you may not want too! If you know what you're doing, it's fun stuff.
Shannon
(posing as someone who knows what the hell I'm talking about when probably I don't because I've only had a 911 for 3 months!) (but I did get to spend a week driving a C4 and a 3.2 alternately)
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I was in your position only a few months ago. I know precisely how you feel. And there were two C4s that "got away" from me and I was crying over. But, like you, I was afraid to buy a car sight-unseen and without a PPI. And, like you, I started thinking maybe I'd settle for a color I didn't really want.
Trust me on this... a better one always comes along.
If I bought a $15 - $20K car and had to turn around and put in $10K in repairs (which is actually very possible in a C4 or even a 3.2), it would be financially devestating for me. So take your time and get one that you can have reliable PPI done on.
I sympathize with you. I was you!! But I ended up with a really cool car. Didn't settle for a coupe. Didn't settle for a color I didn't like. Didn't settle for a year I didn't want. And all of the sudden, "my" car found me.
Your 911 will find you too. Hang in there, dude.
No matter how great the one is that got away... there is always a better 911 coming along.
Shannon
87 Carrera Cabriolet, Carmine Red
Trust me on this... a better one always comes along.
If I bought a $15 - $20K car and had to turn around and put in $10K in repairs (which is actually very possible in a C4 or even a 3.2), it would be financially devestating for me. So take your time and get one that you can have reliable PPI done on.
I sympathize with you. I was you!! But I ended up with a really cool car. Didn't settle for a coupe. Didn't settle for a color I didn't like. Didn't settle for a year I didn't want. And all of the sudden, "my" car found me.
Your 911 will find you too. Hang in there, dude.
No matter how great the one is that got away... there is always a better 911 coming along.
Shannon
87 Carrera Cabriolet, Carmine Red
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A stock C4 will push (on the track it will be like a snowplow
) but, if you set up the suspension properly (drop the ride height, put in more negative camber, stiffen the springs/shocks, and put in larger sway bars) it drives like a dream. It'll keep up with the C2's in the dry and leave them behind in the rain. ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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