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Old 08-22-2007, 12:35 PM
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Douglas, were do you, an escort service? Yes, Tokyo, but I'm back in the States now, so you won't find my logging in a 3am anymore
Old 08-22-2007, 12:49 PM
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Doug my sway bar mount cracked a few months ago..a quick run to meineke and 20 bucks later and no problems....the guy I have around the corner does a great job welding so i don't have problems taking it there.
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I have the equipment to do a quick fix myself but limited funds with "back to school" sucking me dry, but am leaning toward holding out for the good stuff. I gotta find out the price of the WEVO mount that steve has. it's drivable, but I should do it right once and forget it forever.
Old 08-22-2007, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by douglas bray
........it's drivable, but I should do it right once and forget it forever.
Truer words have never been spoken,....

My favorite motto is: "We never have the money to do something right, but we always have the money to do it over again".
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I assume it ethanol that's taking the pump gas up to 100 octane. Ethanol has shown to produce more HP than regular pump gas, so I would assume the mixture (Ethanol and regular gas) would increase the speed and be more efficient in the burn and thus improve the speed at which the piston is forced down, but hey I've had 4 beers....

http://www.easier.com/view/News/Moto...cle-34128.html
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Absolutely not, totally the opposite.

Ethanol has less energy per unit than gasoline. When they replaced the MTBE with Ethanol, mileage & output went DOWN, not up.

For example, here is the text from a powerboat site:

>>"It seems that blending MTBE gasoline and E10 causes some problems such as severe filter deterioration and clogging. It is therefore Burr Bros recommendation that you run your current load of MTBE fuel down as low as possible before taking on any E10. This should be a seamless transition from what we have learned from our NY/CT counterparts. The trick with this is not to take on any MTBE fuel at another location that has not yet sold off all of their MTBE fuel. This was a huge problem in CT as people would get E10 in CT and then fill up with MTBE fuel in RI last summer. We should not have too much trouble, as any deliveries a marina gets now will be E10. It could be a problem early on as marinas make the transition over to E10. Another potential problem with this will be trailerable boats that buy gas at roadside stations. The fuel your boat contained when it was winterized last fall was MTBE fuel. So do not top off your tank at the local gas station until you have run the MTBE fuel out of your boat.

The shelf life of E10 is only 60-90 days. What this means is it will start to break down over time and leave deposits in your fuel system. It will also lose its volatility very quickly. What we recommend is that you run a NON-ALCHOL based fuel stabilizer in your fuel all the time. The reason we are recommending a non-alcohol based stabilizer is we dont want to add even more alcohol to the fuel. There are several good petroleum based products on the market.

Another characteristic of E10 is its ability to absorb water. E10s alcohol base allows it to absorb water directly from the atmosphere through your boat tanks open vent system. In just 100 days at 70% humidity, E10 can absorb enough water to reach its phase separation point just sitting in the tank. In other words, use up your fuel as quickly as you can. Try to plan on turning the fuel over as quickly as possible by running the tank low before any extended periods of non-use. Then fill up just before your next trip out. We dont want E10 fuel to sit unused for any extended period of time. "

and...

"• There is approximately 5-8% less btus in E10 (less power per gallon) "

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Originally Posted by 84_Carrera
Another characteristic of E10 is its ability to absorb water.
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The alcohol in 4 beers will do the same, affecting the max power output of the brain.

(Just josh'n ya stealthn )
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Originally Posted by 84_Carrera
Absolutely not, totally the opposite.

Ethanol has less energy per unit than gasoline. When they replaced the MTBE with Ethanol, mileage & output went DOWN, not up.

For example, here is the text from a powerboat site:

>>"It seems that blending MTBE gasoline and E10 causes some problems such as severe filter deterioration and clogging. It is therefore Burr Bros recommendation that you run your current load of MTBE fuel down as low as possible before taking on any E10. This should be a seamless transition from what we have learned from our NY/CT counterparts. The trick with this is not to take on any MTBE fuel at another location that has not yet sold off all of their MTBE fuel. This was a huge problem in CT as people would get E10 in CT and then fill up with MTBE fuel in RI last summer. We should not have too much trouble, as any deliveries a marina gets now will be E10. It could be a problem early on as marinas make the transition over to E10. Another potential problem with this will be trailerable boats that buy gas at roadside stations. The fuel your boat contained when it was winterized last fall was MTBE fuel. So do not top off your tank at the local gas station until you have run the MTBE fuel out of your boat.

The shelf life of E10 is only 60-90 days. What this means is it will start to break down over time and leave deposits in your fuel system. It will also lose its volatility very quickly. What we recommend is that you run a NON-ALCHOL based fuel stabilizer in your fuel all the time. The reason we are recommending a non-alcohol based stabilizer is we dont want to add even more alcohol to the fuel. There are several good petroleum based products on the market.

Another characteristic of E10 is its ability to absorb water. E10s alcohol base allows it to absorb water directly from the atmosphere through your boat tanks open vent system. In just 100 days at 70% humidity, E10 can absorb enough water to reach its phase separation point just sitting in the tank. In other words, use up your fuel as quickly as you can. Try to plan on turning the fuel over as quickly as possible by running the tank low before any extended periods of non-use. Then fill up just before your next trip out. We dont want E10 fuel to sit unused for any extended period of time. "

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"• There is approximately 5-8% less btus in E10 (less power per gallon) "

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Yeah, but the octane rating is much higher with ethanol than standard gas. So if you build an alcohol engine, you can have a much higher compression ratio and make lots of power.

To your point, on the street, ethanol makes little sense for numerous reasons. Diesel fuel would be better than both ethanol or gasoline, because it has the highest level of energy per gallon of the three and also has a high octane equivalent. The problem in making high horsepower with diesel can be resolved in the next 10 years, thus making it more suited to performance engines than gasoline fuel. Of course, you'll get a 20% fuel economy savings as well.
Old 08-23-2007, 01:11 PM
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Fred, that is all cool stuff, but you were a lot less cranky with the dog picture than you are with the bird picture. (come on now, it was funny)

Why would marina gas stations even introduce a fuel around water that will absorb water so quickly?

Didn't you have a dyno test come down in HP with MTBE vs. non-MTBE blended gas?

I really didn't think this was a big deal. I have spent my life driving Nissan pick-ups and turn in a milage log every month and use it for taxes too. I am currently driving the crap out of my chevy astro and the same story applies. the higher the octane the better it runs and the sooner it responds to what I tell it to do. I have almost been able to show that super runs so much better that it is a break even cost. I get such better gas milage and drive it with less foot in it, that the added couple of dollars at fill up are returned in a longer happier drive. I know alot of you are looking for the number for the funny farm for me right now, but I believe, there for I am. the best part is that Uncle Sam gives me a check every spring for (I think) $0.30 for every mile I drive for work. multiply that by 30,000 miles (or 25,000 on a good year) and a government check shows up at my house with my name on it with $9,000 of the total directly covering my use of super unleaded. If you want to really hate me, if that gas stuff does'nt **** you off, my $2,100 morgage, electric bill, the water, trash, sewer, and the toys in my yard, are also all tax deductable. even the hot 19 year old blonde chick that works for us is a write off.
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Originally Posted by douglas bray
Why would marina gas stations even introduce a fuel around water that will absorb water so quickly?

the best part is that Uncle Sam gives me a check every spring for (I think) $0.30 for every mile I drive for work. multiply that by 30,000 miles (or 25,000 on a good year) and a government check shows up at my house with my name on it with $9,000
1. The gas is stored in underground tanks, really! (as opposed to floating it on top of the marina where it WOULD absorb - and polute - the marina).

2. The govt. TAKES, not GIVES. The 9 grand check they send you is YOUR money that YOU'VE paid THEM and that THEY have been earning interest on all year until you file your deductions and THEN they give it back to you (keeping the interest for themselves of course).

3. If you believe that the govt. is PAYING you $.30/mile to drive your vehicles, you are gravely mistaken and/or have been breathing too many 100 octane fumes when gassing up.

You're a funny guy ,

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Harumph!

Actually Doug, my recent dynos were 204hp at the wheels w/ MTBE, and 198hp with 10% Ethanol. After a valve adjustment. And new plugs, wires, cap & rotor.

Sooooo, no, I'm not liking Ethanol too much.


As for the pups, I gotta get a new set of pics. My Aussie, Bandit, is getting porky. My Golden, Rusty (aka Goober, uh-huh, uh-huh), is getting pretty big & lanky. With a paws-on-your-chest stretch, he's up to my chin now. He's only ~6 months old too & slightly bigger than Bandit is at over a year.

Russ has been making it about 4 hours left out of the crate now before he explodes. I have a ton of my garage stuff in the pups' room, and the other day he chewed the box out from a case of oil before I saw it & removed from his reach. Was doing some wiring at an outlet (live, of course), and he discovered why I kept telling him "back up, stupid".

Will get a new avatar up soon, just for you man. Tell you what, why not get that 19yo hot blonde chick up as your avatar?
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Henry, I was thinking that myself about her but you don't want to see the 14 snot nosed children that always show up in the picture.

and Henry, are you saying that the gas may have had something to do with the dyno's results? You did also get a valve adj., plugs, wires, cap and rotor. I'm sure that all the new stuff is why the loss of HP, not the gas, we know gas doesn't effect HP!
Old 08-23-2007, 04:33 PM
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Here is a picture of the hot 15 year old chick that lives with me and works for me. I didn't find the 19 year old on my office computer. can you see why I am always at the track. this is her in Salt Lake City clearing a 16 foot gap about 10 feet in the air. and you wunder why I have a pacemaker when even my girls can do this blindfolded?
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while we are swinging off on wild tangents I figured now would be a good time to show another picture of my reef tank. 85 gallons of display tank, 20 in the sump, and 50 in the refugium. it's mostly LPS corals. (frogspawns and hammer heads) lets just say I could have a second Porsche for the price of the electric bill on this thing. (yes, that bill is deductable too)
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here are a couple colonies that have grown from $80.00 to $800.00 in a year. the store would like to give me my money back. I don't think so.
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