LA964RS

What's a fully loaded 87-89 carrera weigh?

...and I'm guessing sunroof delete was an option, but rare.

Thanks

Amber Gramps

1250kg is a base model figure used in "original porsche 911" for carrera u.s. the cabrio is only 50 kg more

Peter Zimmermann

It's not possible to know what "fully loaded" is, but the sunroof was an option, rather than "sunroof delete." My favorite sources give curb, aka empty, weight as 1210 kg (2668 lbs) for a base equipment 911 Carrera. I assume that this means no sunroof, with A/C, power windows, the basic seat package, basic period stereo, tool kit, etc. No specific mention is made for Targa and Cab weight, but the '89 Speedster is mentioned at 1220 kg, and the '87 Clubsport is mentioned at 1160 kg. I'm sure that the fully-equipped power seats, with their additional motors, add a few pounds, as does a sunroof, which, if I remember correctly, weighs approximately 25 pounds. Douglas, my sources state that the curb weight of a base USA 911SC ('80-83) is 1250 kg. Maybe it's time for Rennlist to do something truly creative and have members who own different models of the 911 between '65 and '89 arrange to have their cars weighed. We would need guidelines... you know, let me start a new thread and see if interest exists.

Capt. Carrera

Here's the weight for my bone-stock, typically equipped, '88.
2,897 lbs

The weights are from accurate corner scales at Eurowerks in Charlotte. The car has sunroof, A/C, spare tire, jack, full washer bottle, full tank of gas, power windows, electric non-sport seats, 6" & 7" x 16" Fuch wheels.


Oh... the Optima battery weighs about 1/2 what the OEM battery did.

Peter Zimmermann

Capt: Great report, but I have a very silly question. Normally, when a car is corner balanced, weight close to that of the driver is placed in the car. Did the "2897" number include what you weigh? The reason that I ask is because of the huge difference between the factory published curb weight and the weight of your car.

LA964RS

The 2800+ seems more in line w/what I expected. Thanks everyone.

Peter Zimmermann

Almost 2900 lbs just floors me! When I prepared my '81 SC coupe without sunroof (factory weight of 1250 kg - 2756 lbs) I found that it was relatively easy to make the minimum weight of 2640 pounds (I think that was the number) even with a roll cage. I removed the A/C and factory period Sport Seats (which were extremely heavy), the rear heater blower, replaced the exhaust with SSIs and a light-weight muffler, put fiberglas spoilers on the car, installed Sparco seats with 6-point belts, and voila!, the car required ballast after cage installation.

Honkity Hank

From a previous post. Scales believed to be accurate (used for high level racing program)


Car is 100% stock.
Corner balance done with full fuel load (less maybe 2 gallons), spare tire, jack etc all installed. No adjustment for driver weight or other loading.

Setup is for street bias.

Ride ht is to fender lip.

Corner Balance Wt, Ride height.
LF: 599 lbs, 25.125" RF: 572 lbs, 25.125"
LR: 864 lbs, 25.375" RR: 864 lbs, 25.125"

Rake is about 0.75" when measured to sill trim.

Total weight 2,900 lbs.

Alignment spec Front: Caster 5.7 degrees, Camber -0.6 degrees, Toe 0.05"
Rear: Camber -1.0 degrees, Toe 0.05"

No driver adjustment since car is for street use mainly.

Capt. Carrera

I took the liberty of subtracting out my weight to get the 2897 figure.