r911

they also have lighter valves

I agree that they are pretty ho-hum cars. No way can they be compared to R, S-T, RS, SC-RS. If you found one for the same price as a 'regular' car or $100 more it might be fun to show it around your local club.

In terms of real market value, they are prob. worth about the same premium as one of the anniversary specials that P AG periodically puts out -- you are just paying more to be able to say my car is rarer than yours.

jackb911

Oh, and by the way, the eBay Club Sport didn't meet the reserve, even with a $55K "bid".

2002M3Drew

I think it was R&T that tested that car (the 911 Club Sport) back in the day, and did it comparo style against a Corvette with Z51 package. That article had a great line in it...something like, "Only a dyed-in-the-wool Porsche nutball would buy this car." They actually could not get their CS tester to equal the times of their previously-tested Carrera coupe. (The Vette won the test handily.) The weight savings was negligable from what I remember as well. In the end, it is hard to imagine how a CS could be attractive to someone, when all you need to do to effectively have a better car is take a stock Carrera (without sunroof if you are lucky enough to find one) and strip out the AC. radio, speakers, rear seats, deck, change the battery out for a lightweight version, chip the motor and change the exhaust...Viola! More HP and less weight, for far less money.

RedShadow

I think the European models represent a far better value than the US models.

Let's see... 260hp, blueprinted engine, special suspension, special chasis strengthening, all in stripped-out special 911 in a sesame-seed bun?

The only special 911 from the 1980s???

Ummm... yes please!

The clubsport will skyrocket eventually. I have foreseen it!

jackb911

It's too bad that the USA Club Sports were not available in the white/red color scheme of the UK cars:

gaijin

I believe this was the same one displayed at Tweeks FunFest at Effingham back in 2004. The Club Sport was part of a collection from NC that was on loan to Mid America Motorwerks' MY Garage for the event along with a Carrera GT, GT2, 959, 356 Speedster and 3.6T.

sleder

From my experience, Road Scholars ONLY represents the best of the best! I saw this car 4 years ago and it was in original showroom condition at the time. I have no affiliation with R/S either.

Norske

I know the people at RS quite well and have visited them fairly often. I am unaffiliated. I do know they have nothing but the best of the best. I also know the peolpe at European Perfromance. They are also very reputable. Anything RS or EP would say about a car, you can take to the bank.

RacingBeat

i just posted on this subject......under the thread titled "1989 Cabrio for sale- 200 miles"

Went and paid a visit to Road Scholars....very impressive

LA964RS

Sorry if someone already posted this, but he wants $75k for the car...slightly better than the green one he has that he wants $115k for!

Daniel Dudley

As in the only green CS imported to the US ?

LA964RS

I think as in the only special order Irish Green CS in the galaxy.

jackb911

Here's a pic of the Irish Green one.

RacingBeat

$115k........wow......but......after seeing some of the craziness on barrett-jackson, you never know. think about how much things change in as little as even five years......

DHinkle

The CS debate is much like the RS America debate. Yes, you can build your own example of each but at the end of the day, you will own a modified 911 or 964.

The law of supply and demand never changes. In the Porsche world of fanatics (of which I am a member of), low production, performance-oriented 911's hold or grow in value. The CS is more rare than any limited production car built by Porsche over the past 20 years.

The Green Example listed was reportedly sold in the low $80's and they are attempting to resell at the stated price. These cars come to the market so infrequently that the prices are all over the board. I don't believe a CS would sell for less than $40-50k range at this time.

I would love to have a 73 RS and have watched prices go from $75,000 to $200,000+ in the past five years for a great example. The important Porsche cars of the 1980's-1990's will not diminsh in value. The question really becomes, "What will the prices become once the muscle car money moves away because of the crazy prices we see today?"

I've owned two CS (the Gulf Blue is mine at this time); three RS Americas (still own a 94) and two 996 GT3's. They are all great cars to drive and I would not diminish the performance offered by the CS. They are a blast to drive.

I respect each generation of 911 for what they were at the time released and what they represent from an evolution standpoint.

I recently was fortunate to drive a new 997 GT3 that a close firend of mine bought. That is the best car that I've driven, ever. Porsche just keeps getting it right!