psychoideas

Hello all,

What year did the seat belt buckles become attached to the seat? (sliders)
As opposed to being bolted to the "transmission tunnel.

Does anyone have a parts diagram of these seatbelts that are attached to the seat they can post???

Thanks

Frank

Peter Zimmermann

psycho: Boy, you know how to stretch a memory past the breaking point! I once owned a '69 car which had 3-point belts. That car was switched to inertia reels, but it still used the right angle steel anchors that were fastened to the seat. I can remember test driving various '68 - 72 cars, because it was a huge pain to adjust the belts, because, although they had 3-point systems, they were made from adjustable straps, not inertia reels. I think that most/all of those cars had on-the-seat anchors. You might want to try two things:
1. Start a new thread titled "1968 - 1972 safety belts" and then ask for the info that you need.
2. Call Professionally Engineered Products (PEP) at (800) 593-8787. They specialize in seat belt systems and might have all the info, year to year, at hand.
Pete

psychoideas

Thanks Pete,

I'll look into those that you suggested.
I think maybe my original post was poorly written and misunderstood.

My 1976 S has the seat belt buckle receptacles bolted to the transmission tunnel behind the hand brake.
I'm sure that later 911s have the seat belt buckle receptacles attached to the seats themselves. So when a shorter person drives the car they don't have to reach too far back to plug the seat belt in.

I was wondering what year did the mounting point go from the tunnel to the seat?

I hope this is a bit clearer.

Cheers,
Frank

Peter Zimmermann

Hi Frank: Nope, it went the other way - from the seat (late '60s/early '70s) to the tunnel. I think that was done for safety reasons; one more chance to save an occupant even if the seat broke loose from the floor.

JCP911S

Mounting the belts to the seats puts too much strain on the seat rails in the event of a collision... the transmission tunnel is stronger.

coldstart

In my 72 the seatbelt female receptacles were attached to the seat rather than the tunnel (I also had the first year of inertia reels). In 73 it went to the tunnel.

Peter Zimmermann

coldstart: Thank you!
Pete

r911

seat attachment is not as safe either...

Dan Cobb

I also thought later model cars (964, 993, 996, etc) had them attached to the side of the seats. I know the male latch changed shape and size around 86 or so, but I am unsure about the center tunnel mounting issue.
perhaps when they started putting center consoles in the mounting position became 'concealed', thus it simply appears that thye are attached tot he seats.
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psychoideas

Thanks everybody,

Now I'm really confused.
I did an image search on yahoo under 964 seats and this is one of the results.


What's that red thing where the seatbelt would be if it was in a car?

I'm lost

HarryD

My 1973.5 with the low back seats had the belts attached to the seat. I think when Porsche went to the high back seats, the attechment moived to the tunnel.