kyle robert moore

i am looking for an upgrade to my stock exhaust on my 83 targa. i think id like to also replace the heat exchangers as well, in case i decide to go to colder weather.

so what is the best exhaust for the buck? i am hoping to get an exhaust with a throaty tone and maybe add some acceleration.

your votes?

kyle

Martin S.

SSI heat exchangers with a twin outlet sport muffler. The sound is incredible. The SSI, made in Novato, CA are beautifully made. You can also use a Bersch muffler...nice sound as well.

Note, in CA, you can't pass SMOG with this setup. I don't know about HI smoh rules. And with the increased noise you may become ticket bait as you drop the hammer on H1!

Porschephanatic

I'll second that on the SSI's. I installed a Dansk stainless steel dual outlet muffler and felt a significant increase in power with these two additions. It is a little noisey for some, though. With the dual outlet you'll have to modify your rear valance or eliminate it. You'll also need two new backdated oil lines with the SSI's. IMHO, worth every cent! <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" />

Bill W.

If you're concerned about maybe being too loud w/ the twin outlet muffler I've read on other threads that the single outlet muffler is a little quieter. From what I've heard (no firsthand knowledge) that the SSI's and a single outlet sounds very good (louder than stock) but not as loud as the dual. This is the setup I hope to get sometime in the near future.

Bill W.

marc 1xx1

Simple:

SSI and Dansk Sport Muffler (2 in and 1 out)

Best bang for the buck!

Great sound and more HP to boot.

scupper

I had the identical set up that marc describes on my 83SC. It was a good compromise.

Previously, I was running SSIs and a 2 in/2 out Monty muffler, that had four inch outlets. Sounded great on the track, but was way too loud for a daily driver.

chuck
93 C2

MikeF

Just ordered a Fabspeed euro pre-muffler and their dual out muffler...will be running with stock heat exchangers. Fabspeed's quality and engineering is "supposedly" the best in the business. I should have everything by the end of the month. Will post impressions at that time.

gregg911

If you want to keep the cost low and pick up noticeable throttle response, use a Bursch with a "test pipe" (catalytic bypass). I replace the cat for smog tests bi-yearly (6 bolts) and find the HP increase worth the trouble.

kyle robert moore

martin, i hope to avoid california like the plague, so smog is of no concern for me. i actually like the throaty tones, so dropping the hammer on h1 would be great. within reason we do not have a noise restriction here.

when my car was in the shop at my previous mechanic in va they help out my exhaust flow by punching the cat out and letting it breathe. i noticed a big difference then in throttle response.

will look into the ssi and have heard great thongs about the bursch exhaust for the money...

kyle

Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems

Hi Kyle:

You've received some great input here and I'd like to share a little of our own experience.

I cannot say enough for the excellent combination of SSI's and one of the many versions of Monty Sport mufflers on the 3.0 SC engines.. They all make about the same power, they simply differ in sound level.

IMHO, these mufflers make more power from bottom to top (RPM), than the Bursch or Dansk mufflers. You get what you pay for.

Hope this helps,

Tom F

Steve,

How do you feel the Monty stacks up to a factory '74 muffler? I'm about to put SSI's on my '83 Euro, and I have everything except the muffler. The dealer is quoting me around $600 for the factory unit. That's with a discount, I believe. I drive the car day to day in the warm weather months, and I don't want to live with more noise than, say, my old '73 made.

Thank you.

raceman77

l bought a GHL system for my 84 carrera that l`m very happy with.l had the ssi`s before and liked them but with the GHL system no mods are needed and you can order with or without high flow cats.the quaility is top notch and the sound is fantastic with the GHL`s.l believe the price is comparable to the complete ssi conversion...

Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Tom Frisardi:
<strong>Steve,

How do you feel the Monty stacks up to a factory '74 muffler? I'm about to put SSI's on my '83 Euro, and I have everything except the muffler. The dealer is quoting me around $600 for the factory unit. That's with a discount, I believe. I drive the car day to day in the warm weather months, and I don't want to live with more noise than, say, my old '73 made.

Thank you.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Hi Tom:

The Monty, while being louder than the OEM mufflers, does make more mid-range torque and more upper end power than the factory Leistritz.

If noise is an issue, you cannot go wrong with the OEM item.