Doug&Julie

What do you think this one is worth? It's beautiful. I'm shopping for cars for my brother. (Feel the love!)

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jet911

What a beauty! However I'll bet you'll be paying at least three times the current bid for the car if not more...

Good luck,
Jim
'86 911

jerrykrug

I would say that car could sell for 40-50k w/ 12000 miles.

Tom F

I have no information or knowledge of this particular car, but I can tell you from experience that you cannot be too skeptical when shopping on ebay.

GrantG

Could sell for around $30k...

Carrera GT

I don't think this car is making it's first visit to 12K miles.
Evidence of restoration (Weidman?) plus non-correct stuff (CD player in the glove box ...) means speakers in doors, means holes ...
The condition is restored, not original.
Excellence rates a '67S in "excellent" condition at $14,150 ... let's say the current bid on eBay ($19K) is about good money for an obviously sweet, rare, delightful early 911.
The dealership is asking $35K ... yeah, well ...
Anyway, here's their ad.
I'm happy to go look at the car for you since you're not close to it ... but I can't promise I won't offer them $20K ... kidding! Just kidding!

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Cheers,

HarryD

I have seen a thread on this car in pelicana nd the 911S Registry bulletin board. According to these sources, it is owned by a fellow that is part of the R-Gruppe movement. Supposed to be pretty nice.

If you are truly interested, I would get it checked out before auction end by someone you trust or contact the seller and tell them you want the car, make an offer contingent on an acceptable PPI.

Good luck.

Doug&Julie

Wow...thanks for all the help. I think we'll be passing on this one. It's really sweet, and a restored car doesn't bother me. (I didn't really think it only had 12k on it...if it did I don't think they'd be selling it on eBay!) But I don't really think this is the car my brother is looking for. And since the "asking price" is $35k....just too steep right now. I'm still very curious what it'll go for IF it goes on eBay.

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Douglas_T

Try using carbuyer.com, free listings and you can search area's of choice...I don't like ebay....Good luck/skill!

Doug&Julie

Thanks. I've got a loooooong list of sites for car shopping, including yours. Normally, I don't like eBay either....too many "questionable" cars. But I keep an eye on it for the potential for a "bargain". I was just so surprised when I came accross this one...it appears so nice!?!

Carrera GT

My two cents:

The '67 S you spotted is appealing in ways that probably don't paint on the radar of anyone short of a Porschephile purist looking for a unique, short wheelbase car. Younger cars, although longer and heavier, have incremental improvements some the subtle (magnesium versus aluminum castings) to the obvious (vented disc brakes versus solid) and if you're not baulking at $20K for a '67, you're in the ballpark to buy a nice '73 S.

Check the May '03 edition of Excellence magazine. Bruce Anderson (the man we love or love to hate depending upon the price he suggests for a car you might own ... has a really enjoyable article about the "early" 911 from '65 to '73 (of course, everyone knows the 911 simply ceased to exist since 1974 ... )

The article is an easy read and condenses the salient facts into a few pages without bogging down in minutia (if you want real details, buy the books mentioned, ask questions here or visit other Porsche sites.)

My recommendation is the obvious:
Find a clean, straight '72 or '73 911S. Wait until you find a car with a credible history and presently owned by someone that can show you a reasonable set of documentation. Prices have come down in the last two years on the '73 S but I don't think anyone is expecting these cars to lose further value, this is just a correction from the frenzied buying leading up to the tech bubble deflation in 2000. S so you should be shopping around $20K (east coast) and maybe closer to $25K (west coast) as a ball park.
When you find a car, get a Porsche expert (presumably the shop that will go on to maintain the car for you) to do a thorough PPI (inspection) focusing on the health of the engine and drivetrain as well as a thorough examination of restoration or repair work.

pwd72s

My two cents? I've enjoyed a few good laughs whenever somebody would, in all sincerity, offer to buy my car at a price near Bruce Anderson's "excellent" price. I'd also get a good laugh over a $25K offer..Not saying you can't find a good early 911S for that. But I am saying you won't find a "beyond excellent" 2.4 S for that.

Christian K

Are the numbers in Exellence accurate? They made me start looking for a 2.4S in the US to import to Europe, because they seemed to be a helluva lot cheaper there than here in Europe. But I haven't found any cars in the price range suggested by Exellence Magazine. Maybe I don't know where to look?

Carrera GT

Huh?

Did I imply "beyond excellent?? I meant to be describing a car that would answer the call as a trusty daily driver, not the enclosed trailer ride to Pebble Beach.

Anyway, the auction is at $25K with a day of bidder's angst to go ...

For me, a "beyond excellent" '73 911S; what would that mean? Well, that would mean I'm buying it from a direct decedent of Ferdinand and a close friend of my family. The car is silver over red, built to RSR spec in full lightweight trim, personally delivered by Ferry with a warm personal letter recording the joyous occasion. Today, as I gratefully receive the keys, dropped into my hand with a knowing smile from the only man ever to have driven it, the car is flawless and as perfect as the day it was hand carried by a team of a dozen tearful factory race mechanics, carried on their shoulders from the factory through the streets so that people could throw rose petals beneath their feet and sing the praises of such a wonderful achievement. With a steady run of 1000 miles of pure driving joy for every year, regular service and meticulous mechanical maintenance by factory mechanics that volunteered to be flown in to do the work, the car stands proudly on a fresh set of tyres (an infinite supply of factory fresh rubber produced in 1973 sits in cryogenic stasis waiting their turn to be fitted to the car for centuries to come) with the one sole purpose of having me reach in and start the engine ... doh! ... someone left it in first gear and the starter motor jumped the car into a steel fence post, crushing the right front suspension ... oh well ... who would have paid $20K for that 30 year old rust bucket anyway ... hell it didn't even have a radio ...

Tom F

Carrera GT, that's the best post I've read in a while. A lack of humor occasionally plagues the Porsche-phile community. Notes like yours are much needed.