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Old 07-12-2001, 12:50 AM
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Hello everyone. I am on my sixth 911 and I cannot believe I have not run into this site and forum in the past. This is beautiful.

Question: what are the symptoms of a cracked engine block? To make a very long story short: the buyer of my old '77 with 3.0 is trying to sue (extort) me because he believes I misrepresented the car and did not disclose it had a severe cracked engine block. He wants me to pay for his new engine?! He had the car 10 days before I got word of this 'cracked block'. Well the engine was running/sounding just perfect prior to car leaving my possession and buyer was witness to this. It had the normal oil leaks, but that was it as far as engine went. If it did indeed have this 'cracked block' I had to clues as to it.

So, as part of my defense I am trying to gather as much technical info as possible. If the engine did have a 'cracked block' under my possession would I not have experienced some symptoms to the like? Also, has anyone ever been sued like I am here? This suit is absolutely ridulous and a waste of my time and money (for defense lawyer). Thanxs ahead for any comments you may have on this matter.

ARTHUR. . .

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Old 07-12-2001, 10:30 AM
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Did he give you any information on how he came to that conclusion?
Old 07-12-2001, 12:04 PM
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if the engine bottomed out real hard, it could crack the bottom of the case, but other than that,the aluminum 3.0 cases don't tend to crack. where is the supposed crack? he had the option of doing a PPI. did he? if you didn't know it was cracked, you are not withholding info. it's really his problem. a car purchase is a pig in a poke.
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He got this information from his shop and included the estimate for replacement with a used engine as part of filed paperwork ($8600!!). I have talked to a few techs, but would like to see if anyone has ever encountered a 'cracked engine' block or was ever subjected to such a ridiculous lawsuit.
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John, if the case or block was cracked would not oil be spewing into the cylinders or if casing was cracked, a lot of oil onto my garage/driveway? Yes, my attorney, thinks suit is a joke, but we cannot control the other party's actions. Basically, I believe the buyer did not have a clue as to the cost of ownership of these cars and should not have purchased what he cannot afford.

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<STRONG>if the engine bottomed out real hard, it could crack the bottom of the case, but other than that,the aluminum 3.0 cases don't tend to crack. where is the supposed crack? he had the option of doing a PPI. did he? if you didn't know it was cracked, you are not withholding info. it's really his problem. a car purchase is a pig in a poke.</STRONG>
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You don't need a lawyer- just say"no" to all questions pertaining to any knowledge of a cracked block or engine troubles. Do not respond to any correspondence unless it is a supena(sp?).
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you would think that a cracked case would leak onto the ground. like r22tech says, screw him. he bought it,without(?) checking it out, and now it's his. even if he shows you a crack, how can he prove it's the same engine? it's been out of your sight. he could have swapped in a bad one. poeple do wierd stuff. do you have the engine#? that's subpoena. you probably won't get one. it's too stupid.
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Originally posted by john walkers workshop:
<STRONG>you would think that a cracked case would leak onto the ground. like r22tech says, screw him. he bought it,without(?) checking it out, and now it's his. even if he shows you a crack, how can he prove it's the same engine? it's been out of your sight. he could have swapped in a bad one. poeple do wierd stuff. do you have the engine#? that's subpoena. you probably won't get one. it's too stupid.</STRONG>
Thanxs for your input.

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Old 07-13-2001, 10:26 AM
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I am a tech, Porsche only for 4 years, and I have yet to see a cracked case. Maybe he is concerned about the split up the middle of it.
Just my .02
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Please forgive me-I mean no dis-respect. Didn't your lawyer tell you to shut-up? If I were you, I wouldn't be posting ANYTHING about this case on this or any other bulletin board. The plaintiff may be monitoring these boards and his lawyer could try to manipulate anything that is said and use it against you! Once again, shut-up-say"no"-do not reply to anything unless instructed by your lawyer during a deposition. If he has already filed suit and you have actually received the subpeona then it's time to keep a low profile. I'm just trying to help-I mean no dis-respect.
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Originally posted by R22tech:
<STRONG>Please forgive me-I mean no dis-respect. Didn't your lawyer tell you to shut-up? If I were you, I wouldn't be posting ANYTHING about this case on this or any other bulletin board. The plaintiff may be monitoring these boards and his lawyer could try to manipulate anything that is said and use it against you! Once again, shut-up-say"no"-do not reply to anything unless instructed by your lawyer during a deposition. If he has already filed suit and you have actually received the subpeona then it's time to keep a low profile. I'm just trying to help-I mean no dis-respect.</STRONG>
You are correct. I guess I just needed somewhere to vent and to see if others have had this bad experience. Also to see if anyone has ever experience or are familiar with conditions of a cracked 911 engine block. I do not think engine would run due to tight tolerances required of engine and air/oil leakage. I appreciate your words.
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Hello

Artmann you can reedit your mails.

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