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Old 12-28-2022 | 02:41 PM
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Hey all.

I’m starting a hunt for an air-cooled 911 and was wondering what European sites should I be looking at.

Most of the North American cars have gauges and odometre in miles, and I prefer kilometres. I know that I can try and find a rest of the world 911 in North America, and that’s definitely a part of the strategy.

Looking for cars in Europe is also a part of it. Any help would be appreciated.
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Did you think about continuing to look for an NA car and then just changing the gauges? Might be quite a bit simpler, and make it more likely that you could look at the car and/or set up a PPI. I'd give North Hollywood Speedometer a shout.

https://www.nhspeedometer.com/
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Canadian market cars are also in kms.
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Canadian market cars are also in kms.
You would be surprised how many 911s in Canada have miles and not kms. It's actually hard to find one. Quebec seems to be the biggest source of km cars.
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Did you think about continuing to look for an NA car and then just changing the gauges? Might be quite a bit simpler, and make it more likely that you could look at the car and/or set up a PPI. I'd give North Hollywood Speedometer a shout.

https://www.nhspeedometer.com/
Yeah, that is my fallback alternative. I read that these changes aren't necessarily easy, that the odometre wheels might need adjusting. Or I could be making that up...will require more research.
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To add to my own question, I did find a site, Ooyyo, that has listings from many European countries.
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You would be surprised how many 911s in Canada have miles and not kms. It's actually hard to find one. Quebec seems to be the biggest source of km cars.
That doesn't surprise me at all. My 89 Carrerra is a Canadian market car sold new at MCL in Vancouver, so it has the KM odometer. Even the "50,000 km" red 88 Vancouver Porsche is selling for $150,000 has a US odometer. I don't think anyone is going to mess with that after spending that level of cash.
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Yeah, that is my fallback alternative. I read that these changes aren't necessarily easy, that the odometre wheels might need adjusting. Or I could be making that up...will require more research.
I'm not sure it's that hard to do. I also have a 944, and they're notorious for breaking odometers because the old gears snap (usually when the trip reset button is pressed while the car is moving). It's pretty routine to have them rebuilt. Here's a set of gears for 911Gs. The PO on my 944 also had the gauge dials rebuilt with white backgrounds, which sort of offends me but which I also like, so changing the dial faces is not hard either.

I do *NOT* know what you do with the title, in the US, at least, about the change in numbers reported. If I were a buyer and the seller presented pics and other documentation I don't think I'd have much of a problem with it. I understand it's going to cost $2k+ US to import a car you've probably never seen (and I have boughtunseen) plus all the customs and registration time and money. I think I'd check out gauge options first.

https://partworks.de/en-partworks-de...-odometer.html

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If you're looking to view the European marketplace, autoscout24.com and mobile.de are pretty good starting places. Each country has its own set of classified ads marketplaces, but the market for 911's is bigger than most domestic markets, so a lot of people list on these "larger" sites. I found my car this way, after it was initially listed in Belgium but the buyers did not see it, and so listing it through autoscout24 it found buyers and the seller was happy (and so was I of course).
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https://www.elferspot.com/en/ has tons of EU listings. You can filter by whatever generation you are looking for.
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Florida Speedometer.
  • " Instrument cluster needs MPH to Kilometer conversion
  • " Instrument cluster needs Kilometer to MPH conversion"
https://floridaspeedometer.com/cluster-repair/

Palo Alto Speedo, that's another place that will convert your odometer.
  • "VDO Factory Authorized Repair station.
  • "We are the premiere source for instrument repair, restoration, and conversion."
http://www.paspeedo.com/index.htm

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Originally Posted by darylbowden
https://www.elferspot.com/en/ has tons of EU listings. You can filter by whatever generation you are looking for.
this. The site is great and you will see so many really cool cars. Europeans seem to be much more open-minded about color choices vs Americans. I also looked in to the import process a bit. It’s not terrible for cars over 25years old (and as of 2023, all air-cooled cars meet that!) Rules vary state-to-state for registration, but again most are easy on”antique” cars. Expect to pay the US 2.5% to import, and maybe $5K for a company to handle shipping and paperwork.



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