edmorales

Installed GT3 Front Suspension and ASP on a 1977 911SC

wildcat077

Wow , that is one serious suspension upgrade !
Probably cost close to what i paid for my 89 911 twelve years ago ...

Cheers
Phil

ljpviper

What a setup. I am afraid to ask ballpark parts and labor. How does it drive now. Did you have to reinforce the rear top shock mounts?

edmorales

yes, the Elephant Racing kit came with reinforcing tabs that we had to weld in on the shock towers. still fine-tuning the suspension which originally came with bilsteins, but we used MCS Shocks. overall, handling has greatly improved

77 c3.0

im considering a similar upgrade for a my 77 c 3.0. Is this still fairly comfortable on street? Or is it a bit rough for around town? For sake of comparison, I preferred to drive my gt4 and my current 992 c4 with the sport PASM setting enabled.

p.s. love the car. That interior looks great.

theiceman

fantastic hot rod project and id love to try it one day on a car .
but in my mind if it aint torsion bar, it aint a classic 911 anymore

TrojanDDS

I'm looking to change the original suspension of my 1976 911S for one of Elephant Racings kit as well, but looking for something a bit less track focused and more street driving.

Spyerx

Here's the trick: use elephants rubber replacement bushings, on the front an arms, the top shock bushing, and the sway bar bushings. ON the rear, get their rubber replacements for the swing arm and get their adjustable spring plate if the 76 didn't have it and the sway bar bushings (I forget when they went to the adjustable one). New Bilstein shocks front/rear (sport or HD your choice). Skip the poly bronze for street use. Align, and balance, your car will be transformed.

if you want a bit more sport to it, you can opt for stiffer torsion bars + their von shocks shocks, and stiffer sway bars. If you click my 71 link in my signature you can see what I did to that chassis.

f4 plt

I love the blue great looking car but can I offer one small correction in the title of your post you say “77 SC “ the 1977 cars were 911S and the SC was introduced with the 1978 model year does not detract from a great looking car enjoy
years ago I had the las “77 911 S sold by the factory and picked up on the front steps of Werks one on Christmas Eve 1977

theiceman

yeah i noticed that too , but it said 911S right on his engine cover so figured it was a typo.

getting the last 911S would be cool , do you still have it ? do you see anything in your car bleeding in from the " upcoming" SC ?

f4 plt

No longer have the “77 left it in Germany my toy now is a Euro spec “83 SC that I have had for over 16 years and turned it into an RS painted in Brumos colors . Custom built Stroked 3.2 producing over 220 at the rear wheels with 46 mm PMO carbs as a fuel management system plus lots of other goodies very quick and a blast to drive

bkypes

I'm doing something similar now and comparing Elephant vs a few options. I'm dropping a 3.6L in at the same time so it's going to need something far better than stock to be able to handle the extra power and extra 200lbs vs the 2.7 that's in mine right now.

wildcat077

I dropped a 95 3.6 in my 89 seven or eight years ago , it is definitely much quicker and no more valve adjustments ... woooohooo !
Are you going with the Instant G or Patrick conversion kit ?
I used the Patrick kit along with their gigantic front mounted oil cooler, despite all the critics they were very helpful with me !

Cheers
Phil

bkypes

I'm not sure about the kit, I sent the car to the shop I bought the motor from to do the installation. I know he said I'd have to use an RS kit as I have a slant nose conversion on the front and standard coolers won't fit. But he just converted a 77 to the same motor last year and shipping the car works nicely for a fun road trip home once I'm done. The best thing about the motor is it's a 1997 engine built in 2004 as a factory replacement and only has around 12k miles on it, so hopefully will last me close to forever.

But the work is all being done by Zurlinden Gruppe in Jacksonville for the brakes, suspension, swap, and new exhaust.

wildcat077

Sounds like you got a great engine , Varioram is nice ...
I got lucky as well , i paid $7500 for my engine which barely had 12,000 kms at the time, it was out of a wrecked 993.I just can't imagine how much your build will cost nowadays as i did all
the work myself and found it costly at the time.Nevertheless you're going to have fun driving your car , i can assure you it will be a completely different animal !
Keep us posted on your build.

Cheers
Phil