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To all the guys wanting to fault me or questioning me vis-a-vis a PPI.
When you are 3000 miles away and don't know who to hire to do a PPi.......
I have known several people over the years who have bought PPIs only to be totally disappointed in the cars when they arrive because the monkeys doing the PPIs were, well monkeys.
With an air-cooled Porsche in my opinion you need an expert in air-cooled Porsches to detect all the issues known to these cars.
There are highly skilled liars out there. There are people with little or no conscience out there. I bet the liars outnumber the good guys 10 to 1.
To all the guys wanting to fault me or questioning me vis-a-vis a PPI.
When you are 3000 miles away and don't know who to hire to do a PPi.......
I have known several people over the years who have bought PPIs only to be totally disappointed in the cars when they arrive because the monkeys doing the PPIs were, well monkeys.
With an air-cooled Porsche in my opinion you need an expert in air-cooled Porsches to detect all the issues known to these cars.
There are highly skilled liars out there. There are people with little or no conscience out there. I bet the liars outnumber the good guys 10 to 1.
More to come.
Bummer about your car... .... dump it if it bothers you that much if not then figure it out and enjoy it. and be done with it....... your statement liars outnumbering the good guys 10 to 1 is wrong(anywhere in this world)... and in the Porsche Community it is even more off. The coolest thing about the Porsche Community is the masses / significant majority of people are honest, trustworthy and good humans. Can't tell you how many times Porsche owners have helped me without even knowing me or let me borrow things without worrying about getting it back. When I bought my Porsche from the East Coast I even had members on this forum and the other offer to look at the car and even take it in for a PPI for me.
Get that thing sorted out and drive it. BTW.... even the well sorted cars need work... I haven't found a cheap Porsche yet
Bummer about your car... .... dump it if it bothers you that much if not then figure it out and enjoy it. and be done with it....... your statement liars outnumbering the good guys 10 to 1 is wrong(anywhere in this world)... and in the Porsche Community it is even more off. The coolest thing about the Porsche Community is the masses / significant majority of people are honest, trustworthy and good humans. Can't tell you how many times Porsche owners have helped me without even knowing me or let me borrow things without worrying about getting it back. When I bought my Porsche from the East Coast I even had members on this forum and the other offer to look at the car and even take it in for a PPI for me.
Get that thing sorted out and drive it. BTW.... even the well sorted cars need work... I haven't found a cheap Porsche yet
The seller was in no way a member of the Porsche community. I agree with you about passionate Porsche owners—most of my friends are passionate Porsche owners.
You know what? Perhaps the best criteria for buying a used Porsche, anywhere in the world, is to buy it from a passionate Porsche owner.
Anyway, on to the next repair and more parts orders...
Only minor problems found today including a broken front directional socket that had been previously mended with an epoxy and finally let go and a wobbly horn pad on the steering wheel which had a couple of previously glued fasteners let go. Oh yeah, for some reason someone undid the stitching on the bottom of the wheel.
Working on less deadly problems today with this "sorted" car I bought. The driver's and passenger's height adjustment switches don't work so delving into that as well as repairing a rocker panel cover with broken spot welds.
Pcarmarket is a site created by dealers, and most of the cars listed there are from those inside dealers. Its just a way to take advantage of the BAT phenomenon, where cars are purchased for way over market due to auction psychology and out of state buyers, no PPI ect. There are numerous threads on pelican discussing the pcarmarket listing shenanigans, "sold" cars back on the dealer website, massively misrepresented cars ect.
Pcarmarket is a site created by dealers, and most of the cars listed there are from those inside dealers. Its just a way to take advantage of the BAT phenomenon, where cars are purchased for way over market due to auction psychology and out of state buyers, no PPI ect. There are numerous threads on pelican discussing the pcarmarket listing shenanigans, "sold" cars back on the dealer website, massively misrepresented cars ect.
This is interesting. I'll check Pelican for those posts.
Today on a car that was described on the auction site as "one of the most well sorted examples available" I had additional minor albeit costly discoveries such as missing or damaged oil line separators and missing clutch and brake covers. Also some change under the driver's seat that will help pay for the thousands of dollars in parts and repairs that this car needs.
Today on a car that was described on the auction site as "one of the most well sorted examples available" I had additional minor albeit costly discoveries such as missing or damaged oil line separators and missing clutch and brake covers. Also some change under the driver's seat that will help pay for the thousands of dollars in parts and repairs that this car needs.
Again, I would encourage you to talk with a lawyer. Seller's cannot make misrepresentations and then hide behind an AS-IS claim. Especially if the misrepresentations are in writing.
Good luck defining “well sorted” in a legal context.
In the meantime we get to see a mostly list of sins of the past of a 30 yr old car. Haven’t seen a surprise yet. It’s a used car that didn’t get inspected prior to purchase. Caveat emperor.
I bought a lot of old cars
all are ABOVE mkt
some quite a bit above mkt.
ALL ARE WELL SORTED OR BEST OF THEIR KIND
and usually after I put in 75% more kn my above mkt purchase price they become driveable in my std.
so well sorted is ambiguous. really hard to enforce in legal court.
Again, I would encourage you to talk with a lawyer. Seller's cannot make misrepresentations and then hide behind an AS-IS claim. Especially if the misrepresentations are in writing.
Someone mentioned "class action" in another forum.
Good luck defining “well sorted” in a legal context.
In the meantime we get to see a mostly list of sins of the past of a 30 yr old car. Haven’t seen a surprise yet. It’s a used car that didn’t get inspected prior to purchase. Caveat emperor.
It's all been a surprise to me.
Do you have any relation to the auction site or the previous owner?
Last edited by Archer911; 05-14-2019 at 08:37 AM.
Reason: additional question
05-09-2019, 11:03 PM
