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Recently purchased 1984 911 Euro with original paint job that will stop traffic. What is the best product to retain the deep lustre of the fine German paint.The car has been pampered for all its 130,000 miles (with records) however the previous owner (to make a long story short) is unavailable to ask.I would like to hear your advise on best quality/value and where to get it. Thanks for your help.

Jay H

I've had good luck with 3M Hand Glaze followed by Blitz wax on my Porsches. I'm sure others will chime in with their favorite products.

Try <a href="http://www.carcareonline.com" target="_blank">Car Care Online</a> for some good information and good products to order.

Hope this helps,
Jay
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ken louie

try searching the archives. There has been many postings on this subject. Personally I use the 3M products. Not bad, I heard good things about Zymol and Victoria's?

ken Louie
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BER

Asking about wax is like asking about oil or tires...many varied (but good) opinions. <img src="graemlins/a_smil17.gif" border="0" alt="[blabla]" />

I tend to agree with Jay on this one. I use 3M Imperial Hand Glaze followed by either Blitz or P21S carnuba paste wax.

Bruce

Luus

I use a good car shampoo first then add a coat of Klasse All In One, 2 to 4 coats of Klasse Sealent Glaze and a couple coats of a carnuba wax. I really like Pinnacle Souveran it's excellent. It is a little pricey but IMO well worth it. Blitz is also very good. Yes I am **** about my car but it looks great.

I've picked up a lot of excellent detail tips from <a href="http://www.autopiacarport.com/ForumIndex.htm" target="_blank">http://www.autopiacarport.com/ForumIndex.htm</a>

I purchase my supplies from Classic Motoring Accessories <a href="http://properautocare.com/" target="_blank">http://properautocare.com/</a>

Luus
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Jgordon

What is the purpose of a car shampoo? does it just clean, or is it supposed to take off the existing wax? I have a couple of products down --
3m imperial hand glaze and p21S wheel cleaner. What is the best process:

Shampoo
Glaze
Wax?

I'm curious, as soon as the weather warms up, I'd like to spend a day getting the paint perfect. any feedback is appreciated.

Luus

The car shampoo is just a mild once a week car soap. If you need to get rid of old wax or product oils do a Dawn wash first (yes, the dish soap)then use a cleaner. Klasse AIO works great to get a nice base. But it is an abrasive so just use it once a year. If you have swirls in your paint you could then go to something like 3M Swirl Remover.

Go over to the Autotopia detail website (link provided above)and do some poking around. You'll find everything you want to know and more about getting your car to look its best.

Luus
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VS911 '83 SC

You have to look into Zaino - zainobros.com. remarkable, and for a fraction of the cost of Zymol. I am a Zaino follower.

esb97targa

I will second the vote for Zaino. The new EFX addative really cuts down on the time it takes to apply. Just my 2 cents.

nate

I have long used Zymol products on my cars and have always been impressed with the results.

Jay H

You may want to check out <a href="http://www.thewaxtest.org" target="_blank">www.TheWaxTest.org</a> for some very interesting reading on how quite a few popular waxes hold up. They are currently gearing up for their second round of testing, so you may want to keep checking back to see when they start. The fall tests were pretty interesting. The P21S wax was picked as one of the best waxes in the 'affordable' range. The synthetic waxes also held up really well (Zaino waxes did very well). Blitz wax gave great initial results, but lost it's shine sooner than the P21S product. I think these tests were based on leaving a waxed car panel in the elements for over 6 weeks. That's a long time to ask any wax to hold up well.

These guys running this site are pretty serious!

Chuck Harmon

Wax is like oil or tires, everybody has a favorite and naturally, thiers is the best.
For an 84 911 I would not recommend a polymer based product.Yes,it will look very,very good and it will go on very easy BUT years from now what you will have is not very good.I detail Porsches
Only porsches,my specialty is older 911's.the reason I only do porsches is I have an 83SC and have lots of experience with mine and other friends that I helped over the years.I really try and not recommend a product, I have seen the cloudy,almost milky finnish that happens to older Porsches from bad wax and synthetics, it can be removed, I charge $300.00 to get this off !
There are lots of excellent products out there, the One Grand Blitz Wax is good along with the 3M Imperial Hand Glaze, the PS21 and the Pinnacle Soverign(sp?) Griots Garage Best OF Show Wax, I am sure I am leaving out a few but these come to mind as Porsche Friendly Products.I gave a detailing seminar at the Porsche Club Concours here in Austin a couple of months ago and this was my main point, any wax is better than no wax.
Without getting into this is better than that, I will give you what I do that wins at concours.
This is only for your 84 911, if I knew the color it would help, dark cars like black get treated different than white cars,main difference is the glaze or polish&gt; I polish light colored cars and glaze dark colored cars, some get polished and glazed.I'll say your car is a light color, how 'bout Guards Red (like mine)
First wash car with car wash soap
dry car with towel or chamois
Polish car... I use either Griots Garage Fine Hand Polish or The Wax Shop Safe Cut
I use 100% cotton hand towels for the application and removal.
Glaze car... 3m Imperial Hand glaze
Wax car... One Grand Blitz wax
The wax is removed with 100% cotton flannel towels
The Safe Cut and the 3M Hand glaze are available from Pep Boys as are the cotton towels, the flannel towels are from Wal-mart.www.griotsgarage.com has the Fine Hand Polish and the Best OF Show Wax <a href="http://www.carcareonline.com" target="_blank">www.carcareonline.com</a> has the Blitz wax
I have used Mothers Products with good results.
I would love to get my hands on some Pinnicle as well as some of the good Zymol,not the regular stuff that is sold in some of the magazines, the good stuff starts about $75-175.00 a can.To do this right will take about 4 hours, do not get in a hurry, oh, yea... I really like the Meguiars Endurance on the rubber, smells like grapes and really works great and lasts a long time.I also really like the 303 Protectant for the interior vinyl.The one product that I do highly recommend is <a href="http://www.leatherique.com" target="_blank">www.leatherique.com</a> leather treatment, cleaner and rejuvinator.This stuff is fantastic on Porsche leather.Like I mentioned earlier, I am not picking one product over another, this is just what I have used and had good luck with and I charge from $150-300.00 and do about 3 cars a month, I have done about every model from a 73 911T to a 97 993 Twin Turbo.Since I do this professionally I cannot afford to try all the products out there, I ask questions when I see a Porsche that really looks good, I work at a Porsche shop so I see lots of cars, if something really looks good I ask what the owner uses and as for the polymers and synthetics, the cars that I have seen gone bad were brought to me by their new owners and I was not able to get any info on the type of wax or how long it was used.I cannot say that brand X caused the problem all I can say is that there is a problem.Give this a try, you will be glad, You will get more complements,your car will clean up easier too!

Mr Michael B

I want to state that after years of searching for the finest wax, I have found that "Victoria Red" from <a href="http://www.prestigecarcareproducts.com" target="_blank">www.prestigecarcareproducts.com</a> is in fact a superior product.

I have tried all the others mentioned (and even more), but Victoria's is by far the highest quality, AND most protective - period.

It is not low priced, but it is well worth the price of admission.

I honestly mean that - from a Preservation class National Porsche Parade Concours winner.