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Old 01-05-2019, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by myflat6
I keep hearing good things about the Porterfields so I am looking forward to having those on all four corners. For me, my car is such a basket case that I planned on replacing my strut assemblies anyway so I figured when I do I might as well replace them with 3.5 spacing struts. And then it opens the door to the S calipers. Since i am hotrodding this thing i am also trying to save weight where I can so it addresses that as well...hey, now that i have tried to justify these things I'll just be honest - these calipers just look cool man
Robert, you should be posting pics of your sweet T on here - you and Spyerx have T's that my POS inspire to be someday
Do yourself a favor and buy 930 struts and either matching 930 rear shocks or bonus points buy them and have a digressive revalve done, Talk to Elephant, they can do it all at once

I also like what Sptrex is doing for T-bars, if the tires have any reasonable amount of grip the stockers(18.8/23) allow way to much lean, 21/26 is a nice place to be for street use. Especially so w/ digressive Bilsteins
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^hey Bill. I already purchased 21/26 torsion bars and 18/18 sway bars. I also purchased Bilstein HD rear shocks and was planning on Bilstein front struts and have valving done once I know final weight. This was based on advice from you and Randy (was originally planning Konis). What is the difference with the 930's? All of this is sitting in my dining room - my wife loves it was planning on deep 6 front Fuchs and 7's in back (originally thinking R but maybe not R's now due to needing spacer)
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^hey Bill. I already purchased 21/26 torsion bars and 18/18 sway bars. I also purchased Bilstein HD rear shocks and was planning on Bilstein front struts and have valving done once I know final weight. This was based on advice from you and Randy (was originally planning Konis). What is the difference with the 930's? All of this is sitting in my dining room - my wife loves it was planning on deep 6 front Fuchs and 7's in back (originally thinking R but maybe not R's now due to needing spacer)
The 930s come w/ HD valving, 911 versions will have their own stack, but if revalving your don't care
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The 930s come w/ HD valving, 911 versions will have their own stack, but if revalving your don't care
Ok thx
Old 01-05-2019, 05:32 PM
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how low do you want to go?

spacers are ok at one level; but redoing the struts is best if really low (as is searching for gas stations with a low slope on their driveway aprons...)
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Ok, so here are some of the parts that have been sitting in the dining room that I plan on starting to install tomorrow with my son.
New Oil tank and sender (for this '72 oil flapper 911) and all new proper oil lines
26mm sway away torsion bars
Refinished spring plates with Elephant OE type rubber bushings
Refinished trailing arms with new hub bearings and new Porsche bushings, with new Porsche sway bar ***** mounted
Complete Porsche 18mm sway bar kit with Porsche drop links and bushings
Bilstein HD shocks

Should be fun
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the time to send them in to Bilstein for digressive valving is now...

and yeh - you want it
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Originally Posted by r911
how low do you want to go?

spacers are ok at one level; but redoing the struts is best if really low (as is searching for gas stations with a low slope on their driveway aprons...)
Probably going a tad lower than euro - using this spring plate indexing tool from Elephant (thanks, Robert) I will probably install at 24 degrees.
https://www.elephantracing.com/tech-...le-calculator/

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the time to send them in to Bilstein for digressive valving is now...

and yeh - you want it
Ok, I thought I would want to wait until final weigh-in? I may wait until I get fronts and send off together. Since you mentioned this back in the beginning of my build I have been planning on doing it.
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Ok, I thought I would want to wait until final weigh-in? I may wait until I get fronts and send off together. Since you mentioned this back in the beginning of my build I have been planning on doing it.
You don't need the exact weight, +/- a hundred or so #s won't make a meaningful difference, close is good enough, unless you have an in, turn around can be pretty long
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You don't need the exact weight, +/- a hundred or so #s won't make a meaningful difference, close is good enough, unless you have an in, turn around can be pretty long
Hmmm darn. I am guessing my car will come in around 2200 pounds. Sound about right? Randy gave me some cool stuff to educate on weight savings but haven't contemplated everything I will be doing yet. With my simple stripping so far (removed front door handles/arm rests and pockets, remove all of rear seating and panels as well as sound deadening, all of A/C, stereo and speakers, will use lightweight carpet, lighter front calipers, will be using aluminum deck lid and I'm sure more once I get back to reading Randy's stuff) I thought 2200 would be close.

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Originally Posted by myflat6
Ok, so here are some of the parts that have been sitting in the dining room that I plan on starting to install tomorrow with my son.
New Oil tank and sender (for this '72 oil flapper 911) and all new proper oil lines
26mm sway away torsion bars
Refinished spring plates with Elephant OE type rubber bushings
Refinished trailing arms with new hub bearings and new Porsche bushings, with new Porsche sway bar ***** mounted
Complete Porsche 18mm sway bar kit with Porsche drop links and bushings
Bilstein HD shocks

Should be fun
That's pure Porsche parts ****! Inspirational to say the least.
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Looks really good!
My sway bars and torsion bars should be here next week.
Seats too.
Steering wheel not sure.

My car has HD dampers on it now, so we'll see how it is once I get the new suspension bits on it. If OK will leave, if not we'll get them tweaked. Shocks/struts are easy enough to remove on these cars.
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Looks really good!
My sway bars and torsion bars should be here next week.
Seats too.
Steering wheel not sure.

My car has HD dampers on it now, so we'll see how it is once I get the new suspension bits on it. If OK will leave, if not we'll get them tweaked. Shocks/struts are easy enough to remove on these cars.
Thanks - yeah I sprayed the topcoat on my RS wheel today. Happy how it came out. I need to get it to Autobahn now for thick leather wrap. Who knows when I'll get it back.
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Was able to make some progress on the passenger side today. Installed trailing arm, new torsion bar, spring plate (set at 24 degrees) and oil tank and lines. Had to use a homemade spreader to widen the bracket for the trailing arm a few millimeters to handle the new bushings - Robert had given me a heads up so I was prepared for this. My OCD was really kicking in with each scratch in the new black finishes - I did cover some areas with painters tape but still nicked and scratched some things My son joined me and learned how the rear suspension of a Porsche works. I should have him help with my photos since mine aren't that great lol
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