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Comments from a Serious Collector - Seinfeld - May Help
Originally Posted by AG81
Interesting......
If there is a "time" for the 1978 to 1983 911SCs, it may be jump-started by someone of Jerry Seinfeld's statute as a Porsche collector. That being said the SCs seem to have reached a plateau in purchase pricing for the past several years, and there is little collection auction interest (if auctions are harbingers of market desirability).
Frankly, while we are the owners of two original paint concours quality 911SCs, there does not seem to be the market forces pushing up prices as there has been with the “long noses” (from 1965 to and including 1973). However, it is hard to complain with a stable purchase price plateau in the $50,000 to $60,000 range for top quality 911SCs with records, as ours. [Note – our 911SCs are not for sale, and the two “Old Guys” are safely tucked away awaiting a call for use by us.]
In my humble opinion, the 3.0L SCs, while better cars in design, execution, and construction than many of their predecessors, will not graduate to prices now occupied by the “long noses,” and several select early G-body cars as the 2.7L 1974 911s. Lastly, I will not even to attempt to explain the present buyer attraction of the G-body 1976 912Es, as opposed to that of the 1978 to 1983 G-body 911SCs. Even putting an aluminum foil band around my head does not help me as to understanding the price run up of the 1976 912E, and that model’s present attraction to certain buyers. Type 2
Last edited by Type 2; 08-22-2018 at 01:07 PM.
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The so-called "Turbo Tea Tray Tail" was an option on the 1983 911SC (and perhaps late 1982s), and was the optional factory replacement for the earlier optional all black plastic-rubber [polyurethane] tail (image embedded), which weighed a ton, and which the engine lid struts, after a period, could not support in the up position. Type 2
Last edited by Type 2; 08-22-2018 at 01:03 PM.
Reason: msp
...........there is little collection auction interest (if auctions are harbingers of market desirability).
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Speaking as someone who goes to 7+ Auctions a year. I find that a select few auctions represents those who collect. The bulk of the auctions are folks who just like cars. Those folks may not (and in most cases are not) car experts. They just enjoy eye candy and
certain bells go off in their loins and nether regions when a car crosses their path. The Porsche 911's always seem to find a buyer if the seller is not too attached. People who have never had one want to try one. Those who might have had one and let it slip away want another. Those who have one want a better one. It is a never ending circle. There will always be a market for the air cooled cars.
the SC is just too much like the earlier 3.2s minus the better fuel injection system. There is nothing really special to set it apart from the more desirable 911s like the g50 3.2s, the 964s and 993s. And even the narrow bodied mid years I think are hotter right now than the SCs, due to their similar styling to the long hoods and primordial feel. That being said, it's still an aircooled Porsche, and will always be desired by someone.
It's lighter than a G50 carrera. I have an SC and a G50, and can say the SC has its own flavor. There will always be someone who says the older cars are more interesting or more raw. Personally, I don't understand the comments that say the 75-77 should become valuable first, LOL. As far as I'm concerned you can't line the bottom of the ocean fast enough with 2.7 carrereas. To each their own.
2.7s can be saved. And made into good machines as they are lighter than an SC . BUT THERE IS ZERO LINK TO LONGHOODS.
That is stuff if imagination. Engine issues aside, the rust issue alone should make people look carefully. They will never pass SC in value. Except for special cases, but across the board never.
The SC is without a doubt the best starting point for anyone entering the air cooled world. Priced below the Carrera and does not have the issues of the 911S.
The only way anyone should consider a middie is if there is documentation of engine remediation or replaced with the 3.0 litre ( the. Bullet proof sc engine ) and thorough body inspection for rust.
Thats the only way it should even be considered. There is a reason there are few original examples left. The engines died or they rusted away.
If you can stretch for a Carrera great. But a nice SC is miles ahead of a poor Carrera.
What you guys think..? 1980 911SC a little shade at 60kmiles under $20k...No rust in white color, matching VIN vert...good buy or not considering as first time air cooled owner, as well as future value?
It requires minimal work and no leak, very healthy engine/tranny. The value is all over the place based on my research and I can't decide fully.
08-21-2018, 02:32 PM
Comments from a Serious Collector - Seinfeld - May Help
