imcarthur

Mike

85 - 86

As Jeremy said plus:

4 spoke steering wheel
Central Locking
Antenna in windsheild
Improved shifter (shorter throw?)
Boge gas shocks
Electric drivers seat

for 87 additions:

Did anyone mention:

Rear reflector includes backup lights

Ian

MIK911

85 vs 86

Good list.
Correction?: 85 on has windshield antenna, yes?
Re: shifter: '86 has 10% shorter throw.

Was there a change in the seats somewhere between '84-87? Higher seat back??

Mike

MIK911

Add:
my '86 doesn't have central locking

mike

sschmerg

Yes, they changed for the 1985 model year. 1984 models had the same seats as the 911 SC. For the 1985 model year the seats changed to the style they used up through 1993.

-Sean

Tommy B

Wow, you guys are good. Is there a complete list out there somewhere? Simmilar to the SC fact page?

MIK911

OK, what changed between 87 vs 88 vs 89?

Any way to ID these diff models from exterior? eg 3rd brake light position, etc?

mike

imcarthur

From the Red Book:

1980 Air conditioner
Electric windows
O2 Sensor
Catalytic Converter
Heavier lower valve covers
Trombone oil cooler
3 spoke steering wheel
85 mph speedometer
Bosch CIS K-Jetronics Fuel Injection with Lambda
1981 Cold Start Injection added
Fuel Distributor Non-Adjustable
Halogen Sealed Beams
Steel Fuel Lines
Acceleration Enrichment
1982 Cam Sprocket Bolted
New Alternator
1983 Cab Reintroduced
ROW Body Height
Steel spring-centered clutch (from April 83)
Modified Enrichment
160 mph Speedometer
1984 3.2 liter engine
Bosch Motronics LE-Jetronics Fuel Injection
Finned oil cooler in RF (only some 84)
Oil-fed Tensioners
Integrated fog lights in front
Larger brake discs with warning light
1985 4 spoke steering wheel
Central Locking (US only?)
Antenna in windshield
Improved shifter
Boge gas shocks
Electric drivers seat
1986 Seats lowered
Vanity mirrors
Cabin heat sensor
Larger anti-roll bars & rear torsion bars
Brake light added
Power top
Redesigned AC (larger air vents)
1987 G50 Transmission (aka 950)
Fan & new thermostatic control added to oil cooler
3rd light moves to bottom of window
New transmission
New Shift pattern
Larger clutch
Rear reflector includes backup lights
Halogens
Rubber centered clutch
Power top standard
1988 Fuchs replace phone dial wheels as standard
Other convenience features became standard
1989 16" wheels standard
alarm system has blinking lights in lock ***** when armed

imcarthur

Cut & paste imbedded the dates, let's try again

From the Red Book:

1980
Air conditioner
Electric windows
O2 Sensor
Catalytic Converter
Heavier lower valve covers
Trombone oil cooler
3 spoke steering wheel
85 mph speedometer
Bosch CIS K-Jetronics Fuel Injection with Lambda
1981
Cold Start Injection added
Fuel Distributor Non-Adjustable
Halogen Sealed Beams
Steel Fuel Lines
Acceleration Enrichment
1982
Cam Sprocket Bolted
New Alternator
1983
Cab Reintroduced
ROW Body Height
Steel spring-centered clutch (from April 83)
Modified Enrichment
160 mph Speedometer
1984
3.2 liter engine
Bosch Motronics LE-Jetronics Fuel Injection
Finned oil cooler in RF (only some 84)
Oil-fed Tensioners
Integrated fog lights in front
Larger brake discs with warning light
1985
4 spoke steering wheel
Central Locking (US only?)
Antenna in windshield
Improved shifter
Boge gas shocks
Electric drivers seat
1986
Seats lowered
Vanity mirrors
Cabin heat sensor
Larger anti-roll bars & rear torsion bars
Brake light added
Power top
Redesigned AC (larger air vents)
1987
G50 Transmission (aka 950)
Fan & new thermostatic control added to oil cooler
3rd light moves to bottom of window
New transmission
New Shift pattern
Larger clutch
Rear reflector includes backup lights
Halogens
Rubber centered clutch
Power top standard
1988
Fuchs replace phone dial wheels as standard
Other convenience features became standard
1989
16" wheels standard
alarm system has blinking lights in lock ***** when armed

Note:Some standard features in North America were options on RoW cars.

sschmerg

My post on page 1 of this thread covers most of the changes from 1987-1989. Easiest way to tell '87 from '88 is the 3rd brake light; bottom of window for '87, top for '88. Easiest way to tell an '89 is the red blinking diodes in the door lock *****. '89 was the only year for that feature.

-Sean

MIK911

Re: Blinking diodes on door lock pins. Any way to add these to a '86 w/ aftermarket alarm?

thanks
mike

MARS951

So, how would you spend my $$$ for a late 80's Carrera?

I was focusing on the 87 - 89 cars for the G50 transmission. I've come accross an 86 cab that's "tugging at my heart" (to quote another Rennlister) VERY clean and low miles ~ low 60K range, well optioned.

The big Q: is the G50 THAT much better? Should I just try to be a little more patient and wait for an 87 to 89? I can't drive it until the ice melts here anyway.

TIA,

Mike R.

993chaz

Mike R.

I suggest driving both the 86 and the 87 year cars to determine what you like best. I had an 86 coupe last year that was an absolute blast to drive, the shifting initially requires alittle more patience, but after a few miles becomes very simple. Gearing down to first gear will always be difficult..........but really how often do you need to do that.

Again, drive one of each and decide.