Undercarriage question help!!
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Undercarriage question help!!
Does anyone know or have images or diagram of what exactly is in the middle of a 1988 911 3.2? The area directly behind the middle of the undercarriage thats covered. More specifically, wondering what is in area on drivers side right in front of the rear jack point? My car has an indention in this area and im worried if theres fuel lines that run in that area? Cant seem to find any pics online with that undercarriage guard removed.
thanks much!
leon
thanks much!
leon
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There's nothing in the middle of the car but sheet metal. If you want to see what's in front of the jack tube, shine a flashlight under your driver's seat You'll see an ECU and some wiring.
The fuel lines are inside the center tunnel.
The fuel lines are inside the center tunnel.
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Thanks again! Cant seem to find any pics of that middle under car guard removed to see whats behind it.
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There's no cover or guard. The whole middle section is the floor pan. It's just sheet metal with sound deadening tar and paint on the interior side, covered with carpet.
In the entire middle section of the car, the only things that are hidden are the shift rod and linkage, the fuel lines and the main wiring harness. All of those things run inside the center tunnel.
In the entire middle section of the car, the only things that are hidden are the shift rod and linkage, the fuel lines and the main wiring harness. All of those things run inside the center tunnel.
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By the way, since you're new to the 911 and searching for knowledge, an excellent source for learning all about how the car is put together is the Bentley service manual. Every chapter begins with a discussion of the various systems and how they work. A cheaper alternative would be the Haynes manual, but the Bentley manual is the gold standard for DIY and if you intend to work on your car at all, it's a must.
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There's no cover or guard. The whole middle section is the floor pan. It's just sheet metal with sound deadening tar and paint on the interior side, covered with carpet.
In the entire middle section of the car, the only things that are hidden are the shift rod and linkage, the fuel lines and the main wiring harness. All of those things run inside the center tunnel.
In the entire middle section of the car, the only things that are hidden are the shift rod and linkage, the fuel lines and the main wiring harness. All of those things run inside the center tunnel.
Thnx again!
leon
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There is a removable plate at the rack and pinion. It covers the fuel pump. You'd really have to slam into something to damage fuel lines. Otherwise there isn't much. You have AC lines under the left/driver's side rocker and oil lines under the right/passenger side rocker panel.
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#8
what WILL damage fuel lines is age and ethanol mix gas
- replace all the rubber ones with new from the dealer
- same for rubber brake hoses - dealer items will be TUV approved
avoid the metal sheathed Racer Boy Bling brake hoses
check the tires for date codes - replace if older than 6 years no matter how much tread is left
repl. brake fluid every 2 years
repl. other old fluids
if you don't know if a service item was done then assume it was not done
rubber suspension bushings must be replaced also
do you have any old Service records? if so, review & organize - I put the date, mileage, cost, and item completed in an Excel spreadsheet
- a very famous engineer and 911 owner, the late, great Grady Clay used loose leaf notebooks
what did the PPI show?
- replace all the rubber ones with new from the dealer
- same for rubber brake hoses - dealer items will be TUV approved
avoid the metal sheathed Racer Boy Bling brake hoses
check the tires for date codes - replace if older than 6 years no matter how much tread is left
repl. brake fluid every 2 years
repl. other old fluids
if you don't know if a service item was done then assume it was not done
rubber suspension bushings must be replaced also
do you have any old Service records? if so, review & organize - I put the date, mileage, cost, and item completed in an Excel spreadsheet
- a very famous engineer and 911 owner, the late, great Grady Clay used loose leaf notebooks
what did the PPI show?
#9
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what WILL damage fuel lines is age and ethanol mix gas
- replace all the rubber ones with new from the dealer
- same for rubber brake hoses - dealer items will be TUV approved
avoid the metal sheathed Racer Boy Bling
brake hoses
check the tires for date codes - replace if older than 6 years no matter how much tread is left
repl. brake fluid every 2 years
repl. other old fluids
if you don't know if a service item was done then assume it was not done
rubber suspension bushings must be replaced also
do you have any old Service records? if so, review & organize - I put the date, mileage, cost, and item completed in an Excel spreadsheet
- a very famous engineer and 911 owner, the late, great Grady Clay used loose leaf notebooks
what did the PPI show?
- replace all the rubber ones with new from the dealer
- same for rubber brake hoses - dealer items will be TUV approved
avoid the metal sheathed Racer Boy Bling
brake hoses
check the tires for date codes - replace if older than 6 years no matter how much tread is left
repl. brake fluid every 2 years
repl. other old fluids
if you don't know if a service item was done then assume it was not done
rubber suspension bushings must be replaced also
do you have any old Service records? if so, review & organize - I put the date, mileage, cost, and item completed in an Excel spreadsheet
- a very famous engineer and 911 owner, the late, great Grady Clay used loose leaf notebooks
what did the PPI show?
thank you very much. There were several misc items that needed to be replaced whih i will get to soon.
the floor pan having a slight indentation directly behind the driver seat right where the rear seat footwell will that negatively impact driving dynamics of the car outside of very high speed aerodynamics?
Hopefully like you all menioned theres no fuel lines right there that could have been damaged but now wondering if that dent may cause issues with car drives. I know its mianly the suspension, tires that do most of the work in terms of tracking driving dynamics of a car but im sure the floor pan/underside that helps hold car together is important too.
please school me!
leon
#11
no, unless it somehow warped the unit body out of alignment
you can likely just it back into place
these cars don't really have much in the way of very high speed aerodynamics - this is before computational fluid dynamics (due to lack of computers in the 1960s)
Porsche was a leader and was able to reduce the Cd some and then tried to prevent lift - mostly by using wool tufts glued onto the body
you can likely just it back into place
these cars don't really have much in the way of very high speed aerodynamics - this is before computational fluid dynamics (due to lack of computers in the 1960s)
Porsche was a leader and was able to reduce the Cd some and then tried to prevent lift - mostly by using wool tufts glued onto the body
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