Differences between 718 spyder and gt4rs
12-13-2022 | 12:48 PM
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Very well put!
There’s simply nothing like the GT4RS out there. Haven’t driven the Spyder, except the 2011 one, and GT4’s of all model years. The difference in power is BIG. You simply can’t tap into all of it whenever you like on the GT4RS. You got to be observant of steering angle, brake zone and surface and of course traffic around you. Most Porsches I’ve owned, I could just floor the throttle pretty much whenever, except for the tuned 996.2GT3CS, but in the GT4RS I’ve come to drive it like a volcano verging on eruption, and that’s how I like it. It keeps me alert and motivated to keep finding the boundaries and enjoying it. Don’t see myself be blasé about it and wanting to move on to another car anytime soon.
Out of curiosity, the 2 cars you have do pretty much overlap 80% of the time. I tend to buy cars with less overlap in use (964, Cayenne, GT4RS + 2 dailies). I guess none is your daily, but when will you use them, and for what purposes?
There’s simply nothing like the GT4RS out there. Haven’t driven the Spyder, except the 2011 one, and GT4’s of all model years. The difference in power is BIG. You simply can’t tap into all of it whenever you like on the GT4RS. You got to be observant of steering angle, brake zone and surface and of course traffic around you. Most Porsches I’ve owned, I could just floor the throttle pretty much whenever, except for the tuned 996.2GT3CS, but in the GT4RS I’ve come to drive it like a volcano verging on eruption, and that’s how I like it. It keeps me alert and motivated to keep finding the boundaries and enjoying it. Don’t see myself be blasé about it and wanting to move on to another car anytime soon.
Out of curiosity, the 2 cars you have do pretty much overlap 80% of the time. I tend to buy cars with less overlap in use (964, Cayenne, GT4RS + 2 dailies). I guess none is your daily, but when will you use them, and for what purposes?
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12-13-2022 | 04:03 PM
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12-13-2022 | 04:07 PM
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IMO having driven both the 4RS and 992 GT3 on track, the 4RS still suffers from the same compromised rear suspension as the Spyder does, it is *not* happy on a bumpy track (or road for that matter) in either normal or sport mode.
the GT3's more sophisticated rear suspension and steering make it a significantly faster and more confidence inspiring car (on track)
the GT3's more sophisticated rear suspension and steering make it a significantly faster and more confidence inspiring car (on track)
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12-13-2022 | 04:11 PM
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IMO having driven both the 4RS and 992 GT3 on track, the 4RS still suffers from the same compromised rear suspension as the Spyder does, it is *not* happy on a bumpy track (or road for that matter) in either normal or sport mode.
the GT3's more sophisticated rear suspension and steering make it a significantly faster and more confidence inspiring car (on track)
the GT3's more sophisticated rear suspension and steering make it a significantly faster and more confidence inspiring car (on track)
I'd be curious to see the lap times at Nürburgring on both the 992 GT3 and the new GT4 RS. Do you have that data?
Thanks,
Jim
12-13-2022 | 04:16 PM
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"The 992-based GT3 is the first model of its name to lap the German track in under seven minutes, with Porsche announcing an amazing 6:59.927, set by development driver Lars Kern on September 15, 2020."
"However, as it turns out, this time was recorded on the full 20.8-km lap of the Nürburgring, which Porsche just started using as a benchmark. The time for the shorter 20.6-km lap the carmaker used until recently is an even more impressive 6:55.2 minutes"
"Manthey Racing’s latest performance kit has allowed pro racer Kevin Estre to drop the Porsche 992 GT3’s Nürburgring time from 6:59.927 in stock form to 6:55.737, which also beats the 991.2 GT3 RS’s time of 6:56.4."
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12-13-2022 | 04:18 PM
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"GT4 RS laid down a 7:09.3 laptime around the 20.832-kilometer Nürburgring-Nordschleife circuit, while posting a 7:04.511 lap on the 20.6 km layout"
"The 992-based GT3 is the first model of its name to lap the German track in under seven minutes, with Porsche announcing an amazing 6:59.927, set by development driver Lars Kern on September 15, 2020."
"However, as it turns out, this time was recorded on the full 20.8-km lap of the Nürburgring, which Porsche just started using as a benchmark. The time for the shorter 20.6-km lap the carmaker used until recently is an even more impressive 6:55.2 minutes"
"Manthey Racing’s latest performance kit has allowed pro racer Kevin Estre to drop the Porsche 992 GT3’s Nürburgring time from 6:59.927 in stock form to 6:55.737, which also beats the 991.2 GT3 RS’s time of 6:56.4."
"The 992-based GT3 is the first model of its name to lap the German track in under seven minutes, with Porsche announcing an amazing 6:59.927, set by development driver Lars Kern on September 15, 2020."
"However, as it turns out, this time was recorded on the full 20.8-km lap of the Nürburgring, which Porsche just started using as a benchmark. The time for the shorter 20.6-km lap the carmaker used until recently is an even more impressive 6:55.2 minutes"
"Manthey Racing’s latest performance kit has allowed pro racer Kevin Estre to drop the Porsche 992 GT3’s Nürburgring time from 6:59.927 in stock form to 6:55.737, which also beats the 991.2 GT3 RS’s time of 6:56.4."
Jim
12-13-2022 | 04:22 PM
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I agree! the 4RS numbers do not SUCK - but its clear the advantage that the GT3 has on the 'Ring ... approx .5 sec/km-ish ...
my own personal experience driving both cars at the 'Ring (a LOT slower than those times I might add) is that the 992 is simply "happier" over the bumps than the 718 is ... and its the rear end that is the issue.
my own personal experience driving both cars at the 'Ring (a LOT slower than those times I might add) is that the 992 is simply "happier" over the bumps than the 718 is ... and its the rear end that is the issue.
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12-14-2022 | 03:13 PM
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Very well put!
There’s simply nothing like the GT4RS out there. Haven’t driven the Spyder, except the 2011 one, and GT4’s of all model years. The difference in power is BIG. You simply can’t tap into all of it whenever you like on the GT4RS. You got to be observant of steering angle, brake zone and surface and of course traffic around you. Most Porsches I’ve owned, I could just floor the throttle pretty much whenever, except for the tuned 996.2GT3CS, but in the GT4RS I’ve come to drive it like a volcano verging on eruption, and that’s how I like it. It keeps me alert and motivated to keep finding the boundaries and enjoying it. Don’t see myself be blasé about it and wanting to move on to another car anytime soon.
Out of curiosity, the 2 cars you have do pretty much overlap 80% of the time. I tend to buy cars with less overlap in use (964, Cayenne, GT4RS + 2 dailies). I guess none is your daily, but when will you use them, and for what purposes?
There’s simply nothing like the GT4RS out there. Haven’t driven the Spyder, except the 2011 one, and GT4’s of all model years. The difference in power is BIG. You simply can’t tap into all of it whenever you like on the GT4RS. You got to be observant of steering angle, brake zone and surface and of course traffic around you. Most Porsches I’ve owned, I could just floor the throttle pretty much whenever, except for the tuned 996.2GT3CS, but in the GT4RS I’ve come to drive it like a volcano verging on eruption, and that’s how I like it. It keeps me alert and motivated to keep finding the boundaries and enjoying it. Don’t see myself be blasé about it and wanting to move on to another car anytime soon.
Out of curiosity, the 2 cars you have do pretty much overlap 80% of the time. I tend to buy cars with less overlap in use (964, Cayenne, GT4RS + 2 dailies). I guess none is your daily, but when will you use them, and for what purposes?
I want a convertible for drives and the the gt4rs for tracking. We will see if that happens.
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12-14-2022 | 03:16 PM
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IMO having driven both the 4RS and 992 GT3 on track, the 4RS still suffers from the same compromised rear suspension as the Spyder does, it is *not* happy on a bumpy track (or road for that matter) in either normal or sport mode.
the GT3's more sophisticated rear suspension and steering make it a significantly faster and more confidence inspiring car (on track)
the GT3's more sophisticated rear suspension and steering make it a significantly faster and more confidence inspiring car (on track)
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12-14-2022 | 03:29 PM
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I also had a 4.0L boxster anniversary. The spyder was definitely a step above that as far as handling. The torque was also much more noticeable in the spyder despite being the same engine. That little detune they do on the gts makes a noticeable difference. Initially, I feel the spyder was a little easier to drive fast than the rs since you have to practice good throttle control. Once I get used to it that will be a very different story.
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