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Old 12-06-2022 | 10:03 PM
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I like stock. I don't mod stuff. I even leave track cars stock way beyond what I should tolerate, although I'm thinking the GT4 is going to get shims, and I might tinker with the rear end.

My race car has proper suspension and just enough cooling mods to be reliable, but I could add 50% more power and still be legal for the classes I usually run with and I haven't because I don't feel like cracking open a perfectly good engine.

I believe mods devalue cars and often make them worse.
Old 12-06-2022 | 10:49 PM
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Mine is mechanically stock. I don’t think I will be able to discern a huge performance difference from my normal driving. And I highly doubt I will use or need more than what came with the car for street driving.

I tend to accept a car out of the box as is. The way Porsche god intended it to be. But I always spec my own car.

Just minor cosmetic changes that I did.
Clear side markers
Windschott glass
Bolster protector/ custom headrest covers.
Old 12-06-2022 | 11:08 PM
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Just mod the heck out of it like this.
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Old 12-07-2022 | 12:08 AM
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Tasteful upgrades you should do:
1) Get an exhaust (OPF and Muffler) and exhaust valves. Headers are optional
2) PPF
3) If it's stick - get the Numeric shifting cables and metal ball ends
4) Clear side markers
5) LWBS bolster protectors

This is everything I did to my car
Old 12-07-2022 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by landsteam
I just picked up my car a couple of weeks ago.
How many just leave 100% stock?
When I start to mess with my cars I often end up with a car worse then I started with.
Well... since you asked, let me help you out a bit here. The GT4/Spyder came out from the factory kinda half baked and there is A LOT of meat left on the bone. Id say is at 80% of what it should have been at this price point. But thats not how Porsche does things since they cater to a 'lower common denominator' of uses and expectations. Ill stop there. So IMO mechanically here is what you should do at a minimum in order of importance:
1. Install adjustable TPC or Tarret rear toe links (google or search alignment threads). You need this because Porsche crippled the rear of the car with a static length toe link so you cant adjust the rear camber. $750
2. Take the car to a good alignment or Porsche race shop (not a dealership) and get a decent alignment done on the car to about -2 front camber and -1.8 rear camber. This makes the car handle 100% better. $300
3. get an exhaust valve controller like cargraphic so you can keep the exhaust valves open as you like. $500
4. change out the OAP exhaust pipe so you can get some sound out of the car. $1500

THATS IT! Simple and cost effective and maybe get you to 85 or 87%. You will love and enjoy the car much more.
PS. I ripped out the entire exhaust, got an ECU tune and dumped the pasm suspension for coilovers and now the car is 92-94% of what it should have been from the factory.

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Old 12-07-2022 | 01:31 AM
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Nope, no way I could keep my ‘22 Spyder stock. Also echoing others that have partially mentioned, my must have mods are:
- PPF w/ ceramic coat
- T-Design9 memory module
- Rennline magnetic phone mount
- RGS intake grills
- JCR silenced valves race exhaust
- Flat6 OAP
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Old 12-07-2022 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by landsteam
I just picked up my car a couple of weeks ago.
How many just leave 100% stock?
When I start to mess with my cars I often end up with a car worse then I started with.
Awesome car by the way! Congrats! Curious to know how you have made your car worse in the past though?
Old 12-07-2022 | 04:11 AM
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What's this thing called 'stock'? All kidding aside, modding is fun and makes the car unique and catered to your own taste. Most of what I've done is cosmetic or helps me enjoy the car more (such as Musicar Stage 1 and Cargraphic Valve Controller). In terms of performance unless you track you don't really need much other than rear Toe Links and proper alignment. For sound, OAPs are great bang for the buck.
Old 12-07-2022 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by GrandPaJohn
Just mod the heck out of it like this.
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Stock? Umm, no. Never. Even if small. On the 718, you NEED at least to change the OAP's and Cargraphic EV controller. That changes the car DRAMATICALLY! From there, it's all personal taste and depends on intended use. But you cannot leave the exhaust stock IMO.

LOVE the white Sypder.

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Old 12-07-2022 | 11:03 AM
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All of my "mods" are easy to reverse in one afternoon bolt-ons and I keep all the stock parts. I appreciate enhancements but I also appreciate a totally stock car especially if I still have this car ten years from now.
Old 12-07-2022 | 12:08 PM
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I can't leave things alone.

How far I go depends on how long I plan on keeping the car, where the car starts, and the goals for the car. For race Miata, I have probably 4x Miata value in mods. Tho for most cars, I've learned I prefer to mostly not go into the engine, but I do like a lot of 'bolt on' mods and suspension upgrades. I have made some cars worse, mostly in the metric of reliability, and usually when I start going > 2x OEM power levels. If one wants to go that far, I've had good (reliability) experience with swapping everything in the driveline from a higher powered vehicle, and staying within 2x the power levels of the donor. None of my current cars are stock, and with past lessions learned, most current mods have been very beneficial.

The GT4 already started in a good place for my goals with it, so I stayed near the OEM performance envelope. The mods I've done with my GT4 (AP Radical, all rubber removed from suspension (monoballs, etc.), full exhaust, big ****, 19" wheels, track alignment) have improved the performance somewhat but are absolutely transformative WRT the driving experience, and have little or no effect on reliability.

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Old 12-07-2022 | 12:47 PM
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I keep any stock parts too. I have clear markers, full ppf, sunshade and a bluetooth carplay dongle. That's it lol.

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Old 12-07-2022 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Leader
I have done a few cosmetic mods to the interior of my CGTS. Leather shift boot for the PDK. Carbon fiber shift ****. Red starter key dummy. Red drive mode selector switch. Rennline mag safe phone charging mount. Kaizen console cup holder. Fürstel Coco Mats.
Did extensive PPF, window tinting and full ceramic. Oh, and clear side markers up front. Plus, Chalk key fob cover from China.
Mechanically, no changes.

Do you mind sharing where you got the carbon fiber shift **** and how much?
Old 12-07-2022 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by halfmonkey
Do you mind sharing where you got the carbon fiber shift **** and how much?
Forget that carbon fiber shift ****! Go with the GT4RS PDK shifter... easily the best interior mod for the GT4PDK of all time!

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Old 12-07-2022 | 03:14 PM
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What does OAP mean??? TIA


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