Lightweight Bucket Seats (LWBS) Discussion
#16
Burning Brakes
This is also a never-ending topic of ‘debate’ and endless threads on Bimmerpost about the G80/82 CF buckets
CF buckets LOOK spectacular in both the G80/82 and GT4/Spyder . . . very sporty
I have CF buckets in my GT4 and had the CF buckets in my G80C
Both come with an admission price (vehicle entry/exit), the degree of which varies according to the individual . . . in other words, livability varies according to user
The CF buckets in my G80C were the best seats in which I ever sat. Period . . . and, believe it or not, even more difficult to enter/exit than the GT4 CF bucket seats. The side bolters are HUGE in the BMW CF buckets
The CF buckets in my GT4 are everything anticipated and I would not change them for another Porsche seat option. 718s are no treat entering/exiting even with 18-way seats . . . I had a 718 CGTS with 18-ways and do not feel entering/exiting is much different for the GT4 with CF buckets
As a related aside, my 718 CGTS had 18-ways with Sport Tex center upholstery, which was an upgrade over leather/alcantara and no longer available. Honestly, that Sport Tex material was absolutely amazing and I would take in a heartbeat over the center alcantara in the CF buckets.
Just my $0.02
Avera
Edit: With regard to bolster protection, I am in the camp of 'no need' . . . then again, I am an outlier in these parts as I am not much into aesthetic maintenance. I just drive the machine.
CF buckets LOOK spectacular in both the G80/82 and GT4/Spyder . . . very sporty
I have CF buckets in my GT4 and had the CF buckets in my G80C
Both come with an admission price (vehicle entry/exit), the degree of which varies according to the individual . . . in other words, livability varies according to user
The CF buckets in my G80C were the best seats in which I ever sat. Period . . . and, believe it or not, even more difficult to enter/exit than the GT4 CF bucket seats. The side bolters are HUGE in the BMW CF buckets
The CF buckets in my GT4 are everything anticipated and I would not change them for another Porsche seat option. 718s are no treat entering/exiting even with 18-way seats . . . I had a 718 CGTS with 18-ways and do not feel entering/exiting is much different for the GT4 with CF buckets
As a related aside, my 718 CGTS had 18-ways with Sport Tex center upholstery, which was an upgrade over leather/alcantara and no longer available. Honestly, that Sport Tex material was absolutely amazing and I would take in a heartbeat over the center alcantara in the CF buckets.
Just my $0.02
Avera
Edit: With regard to bolster protection, I am in the camp of 'no need' . . . then again, I am an outlier in these parts as I am not much into aesthetic maintenance. I just drive the machine.
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Visceral (09-20-2022)
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LOL, I appreciate your sense of humour.
I had the 2 ways and now 18 way. I have to say the 18 ways surprised me in their adjustability, and being on the taller side that was an unexpected bonus. On a new order though, I think it would be buckets despite agreeing with the logic in the OP. They fit me pretty good and look the business and I would argue connect you to the car a bit better. I like the 18 way seats though, and don't really care if they're heavier than the alternatives.
I had the 2 ways and now 18 way. I have to say the 18 ways surprised me in their adjustability, and being on the taller side that was an unexpected bonus. On a new order though, I think it would be buckets despite agreeing with the logic in the OP. They fit me pretty good and look the business and I would argue connect you to the car a bit better. I like the 18 way seats though, and don't really care if they're heavier than the alternatives.
Any car of mine that is either going to spend time on the track or has a manual transmission will get ordered with LWBS, but I'd love a garage that allows 4 feet on either side of each car to I can exit or enter (semi) gracefully... I don't have that. 51% buckets, 49% 18-ways...
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4. Cargraphic/Soul exhaust controller
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6. Burmester tweeters if you have Bose
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The forum demands you start with clear corners.
"Official Rennlist Things You Must Buy While Obsessing Over Track Your Dream"
1. Clear corners
2. Ed guards
3. Exhaust of your choice
4. Cargraphic/Soul exhaust controller
5. Tarret/TPC toe links
6. Burmester tweeters if you have Bose
"Official Rennlist Things You Must Buy While Obsessing Over Track Your Dream"
1. Clear corners
2. Ed guards
3. Exhaust of your choice
4. Cargraphic/Soul exhaust controller
5. Tarret/TPC toe links
6. Burmester tweeters if you have Bose
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Larry Cable (09-20-2022)
#22
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By some miracle I have my 18 ways set just right for me now and I am dreading my first service as 90% chance some midget moves my seat.
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PaulE (09-20-2022)
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I see a ton of shade thrown to folks who order the 18-ways. They're not "hardcore" or "purists" or they don't pass some Porsche test. As a bucket owner and future orderer, I think it should be said that LWB seats are NOT perfect, and often leave 95% of us wondering if sofas would have been easier.
You pull into a tight parking spot, the door only opens a foot or two. How the %^$# are you going to get out?
It's been a good day. Your leg workout went well, but now you're sore. Time to get into our buckets. Do we just fall into the seat?
I've just bought a new car and within 400 miles I've noticed that I'm absolutely beating the hell out of the outside bolster getting in and out. I need to spend another $625 to make these seats work long term?
Oh, buckets. I love them but I'm honestly 51% bucket, 49% 18-ways.
You pull into a tight parking spot, the door only opens a foot or two. How the %^$# are you going to get out?
It's been a good day. Your leg workout went well, but now you're sore. Time to get into our buckets. Do we just fall into the seat?
I've just bought a new car and within 400 miles I've noticed that I'm absolutely beating the hell out of the outside bolster getting in and out. I need to spend another $625 to make these seats work long term?
Oh, buckets. I love them but I'm honestly 51% bucket, 49% 18-ways.
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I have them in my GT3 and Spyder - being a man of a certain age where (an increasing number) of my "parts" are "out of warranty" and "expensive to replace" - I had to give in and install P1Designs inserts in both my LWBS otherwise my broad A$$ and (out of warranty) hip would have effectively crippled me by now.
despite the unstoppable progress of time (and their effects) I remain a staunch supporter of the LWBS and would not spec anything else in a GT car ...
I do wonder about the new OEM seat inserts and how effective/comfy they are ... but price point precludes purchase w/o first performing an A$$ test...
despite the unstoppable progress of time (and their effects) I remain a staunch supporter of the LWBS and would not spec anything else in a GT car ...
I do wonder about the new OEM seat inserts and how effective/comfy they are ... but price point precludes purchase w/o first performing an A$$ test...
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p.s just (try and) pick up an 18 way(*) vs. an LWBS and you will definitely feel the benefits!
(*) not before first checking with your hernia surgeon on their scheduled vacations.
(*) not before first checking with your hernia surgeon on their scheduled vacations.
#29
I felt that LWB are kinda corny and poser-ish in a GTS, so went 18-ways, but I'm surprised how difficult it still is to get out of the car. Can't imagine what it's like with the buckets.
My daily is a lowered Mk7 Golf R, and getting out of that thing feels like stepping out of a crossover compared to the 718.
My daily is a lowered Mk7 Golf R, and getting out of that thing feels like stepping out of a crossover compared to the 718.
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The worse part: I wouldn't be surprised if the module that stores the settings is still there, just not active on the GT4. Which makes even less sense. If it's not done for weight and/or cost savings, it's done...because people that buy GT cars don't like convenience?