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what car?

Dan Nagy

992 Targa C4S

aerohead80

It seems to me that people being willing to do this kind of thing is why we continue to see dealer's capitalizing on FOMO and asking for ADMs. I absolutely understand there are supply shortages in a wide range of industries and don't for a second see that as some conspiracy. However, I do believe some of the true impacts are being exaggerated and/or taken advantage of to drive sales and higher costs. Part of me even wonders whether Porsche's statements about 2025 no more ICE on certain lines is just a way to drive people to FOMO into jumping into the game now. I guess time will tell.

aerohead80

Where was that dealer located? We need to put a light on that kind of thing in here so people know what they're dealing with at least. If not, then those kinds of dealers will continue to get away with these games and folks will get caught up in it thinking they're playing fair.

Adrift

Really? That’s most dealers. They’re not saints, they’re car dealers. It’s what they have always done, since the beginning of time. Some better, some worse, but all are car salesmen (people?) at the end of the day.

enduro

I caught a dealership in a lie about me being first in line while they were sitting on a $5k deposit, and prior the last straw, I received some pretty unprofessional treatment from the SA over the course of a couple months' waiting. Dumbasses seem to think customers and enthusiasts don't know one another.

Took my business out of state, and that dealer was straightforward, no BS. If I buy another, and when the tide turns, I'll give the out of state dealer priority, assuming the SA is still in the business.

So YMMV.

aerohead80

Yes, really. I mean the deck is already stacked against most people in these threads, why wouldn't more transparency be good for us? I don't see what the downside would be for those here and what good reason you'd have for protecting those kinds of practices. I understand they're car dealers/salesmen, but they're not all equal and it doesn't excuse the behavior or help the consumer out by just accepting it as normal.

aerohead80

Where was the first dealer located that you dealt with? Call that stuff out on here, anything else just helps the dealer not the people here.

enduro

Not looking to get in that kind of a pissing contest, but suffice it to say, 'my' other GT4 is running around on Rennlist. They already have a **** rep locally among my friends, but I had to find out for myself. One counterpoint is they do have at least one SA who seems to be stand up, unfortunately I didn't know to transact through him at the time.

Xxyion

I think its a bit different here so I'll give some more context. My local dealership was pretty up front that paying more ADM would move me up the list. That being said when I did get my allocation from out of state, I talked to him first and he told me he hadn't gotten any allocations in. However he did also tell me that as someone willing to pay 20k ADM, I'd definitely get a car. Which wasn't untrue as my allocation out of state is also for 20k ADM., but it just wasn't with him.

That being said I am not willing to tarnish any reputation with him as I also have a GTS deposit down at that dealership for my girlfriend when she is ready to buy.

The point of my original post was just, a dealer telling you that you are #1 or not doesn't really matter. To be honest I don't even think there is an actual list and order. If anything its just whoever is willing to pay more ADM and whichever SA gets to it first.

Adrift

And while we are "calling out" dealerships, is there going to be a Snopes that ferrets out the BS stories? Or are we to take on faith that every butt-hurt potential customer will be honest in their communications? Should we start a public blacklist? How many "strikes" will it take to get on the list? Removed from the list? What will constitute a "strike?" Who will decide?

aerohead80

Totally get where you're coming from and fair points. Thanks for expanding on it more so we all learn about the process and what to expect 👍.

TXRubicon

My dealer here in Houston said point blank that there is no numeric list they work off of beyond a list of clients interested in certain cars. VIPs get whatever they want, and the rest are divvied up at the dealers discretion. They only charge MSRP so it’s not a bidding war but rather a game of relationships. You don’t have to buy dozens of cars from them to get one. I haven’t ever bought a car from them but managed to get a GTS 4.0 allocation quickly. I have however sent them over a dozen clients that converted to sales for my SA. He took care of me when I finally had an ask. A guy who walks in off the street may never get an allocation.

As for deposits, they only took a $5k deposit when I had a guaranteed allocation and made me sign a purchase order with pricing information including fees and taxes, as well as a document saying they will not charge over the manufacturers price.

They’re one of the 25 Premier dealers in the country for whatever that’s worth.

ipse dixit

Treat dealer waitlists like horoscopes.

For entertainment purposes only.

artongdou

I had pretty bad experience with this waitlist BS. SA just right out lied to me. And when he left the company and I got transferred to a manager. My position was nowhere near what the SA told me.