dizzyj

I’m looking at a used 2020 gt4 with 20k miles. Had a ppi on it and there is at least one over rev (3) of 440 ignition cycles and the clutch needs replacement.

run away?

TXshaggy

What was the MSRP and current asking price?

Who pays for the clutch?

What does the rest of the PPI say?

Ask a SM about the zone 3 over revs and warranty.

I’d run unless way below market, high miles to boot!

phow

+1 @TXshaggy

Also, I could be wrong but over-rev at range 3 would indicate some sort of "tune" on the car, would it not? I would think the factory tune limiter would have kicked in.

dizzyj

It’s under market value but still over msrp. These are all crazy expensive at this point.

Rest of the ppi is fine abs the selling dealer will replace the clutch.

my local sm said to run from it. I’m assuming an rover rev is due to a miss shift. That said I plan on tracking the car and I doubt I will never miss a shift in its lifetime.

Jeff Jones

Sounds like a perfect track car to me other than the timing of market prices. 20k miles and over MSRP. Man is it a ****ty time to buy a car unless you’re offsetting with an equally inflated sale/trade.

phow

Is it being CPO'd? I know too many range 3 will not allow for CPO but if it is being offered as CPO I wouldn't be too concerned.

As far as prices, the market has gotten crazier since I bought mine a few months ago. I suspect it will get worse as we close in on the summer.

dizzyj

No cpo as it’s not sold by a Porsche dealer. Wish I got the itch a year ago. Maybe these gas prices will cool the market.

phow

I’m not sure if this is a long term keeper or not but there is still the factory warranty. I guess the question is if the over rev some how voids that factory warranty. That would be my personal deciding factor.

Bill Lehman

One over rev 440 @ 3 is nothing. Use it to lower the price but no issues.

TXshaggy

How many zone 2 over revs?

Zhao

A clutch required at 20000miles would generally mean an idiot owned that car. How many gear grinds did he do while he was destroying that clutch?

Dan Nagy

Run away. I would only buy a pre-owned from a Porsche dealer with CPO. That’s a lot of bucks to spend on a guess.

Zhao

Ya the older I get the less interested I am in buying cars privately. Too many lies I uncover (looked at a m3 for a friend. Never been repaired! all factory paint. uh, why is the entire front end repainted? oh for rock chips!. Then why is the 1/4 panel also painted? oh it was scratched. no, I can tell it has body filler under the paint from a repaired dent that was quite significant as I can see the sand scratches from them finishing it improperly... and she didn't buy that car).

Definitely not interested in buying a car from from a non CPO dealer either; if it was good what's it doing at a kia dealership?

If it's a car that's cheap or I plan to only own for a little bit i'll roll the dice on buying site unseen if it makes sense to do so, but on anything expensive or that is a keeper, it's gotta be a CPO at the dealer that sold that thing new.

SpeedySpidey

I agree… if the car ticks all your other boxes, make an offer based on the (exaggerated on your part) cringe worthy issues.
You are in control of what you would spend on the car.
And yes, with gas and everything else going up, the cooling off period has just begun.

enduro

@Zhao I've found paint work on CPO BMWs before, unsure if Porsche is different. Bought some great cars from individuals. I just don't buy sight unseen period.