Another completed DeMan 4.5L 718 - Impression/review!
#47
I used to think a final drive solution would be ideal, but changing gears 2-5 accomplishes everything you could want. A shorter final drive would shorten gears 1 and 6 as well. 1st gear is inconsequential in most situations and not worth shortening, and most people would want a longer 6th gear if anything (for highway use). Not to mention the reliability issues that have been brought up time and again
You know, back in the old Muscle Car days, you dropped a 4 series carrier in your 12 bolt, along with some 4:11’s and life was good.
Rick’s explanation was just what I needed to hear.
I’m in the camp that the gearing is just not enjoyable for the 45-55 mph roads that I spend 95% of my time on.
That ever so tempting sweet spot in the 3500 RPM range finds me doing 75 before I recognize I’m in that “loose my license” territory.
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JAhmed (01-26-2022)
#50
Since you're in the chicagoland area, @JAhmed, I'd love to meet up sometime to hear how it sounds once it warms up!!
@JAhmed the instant this thing is back in town - we need to meet at MW.
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#51
Oh boy what a dream car you have got there now. All that performance, sound, top down and improved manual transmission. This is what I would love for a Spyder RS to aim for.
Hey Rick, when did you say you are opening a shop in Europe?
Please share pics / videos when possible!
Hey Rick, when did you say you are opening a shop in Europe?
Please share pics / videos when possible!
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M. Schneider (02-13-2022)
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Rick DeMan (01-27-2022)
#53
We do not have a final drive, never will. It simply will never be strong enough. Changing the ratio makes the pinion gear way too small and fragile.
Back in 2001 Porsche Motorsport offered a shorter R/P for the mighty GT3 R/RS race cars. They came with a disclaimer that they were only good for 15 hours of race use. They certainly did break after that time limit!
Our gearing change is the single best thing you can do to any GT4/Spyder. From a performance and driving experience perspective its the biggest and best bang for the buck outside of the 4.5L.
I have not experienced the clutch issue first hand so not sure what the issue could be. Our lightweight clutch/flywheel package has never experienced that on close to 60 cars now.
Back in 2001 Porsche Motorsport offered a shorter R/P for the mighty GT3 R/RS race cars. They came with a disclaimer that they were only good for 15 hours of race use. They certainly did break after that time limit!
Our gearing change is the single best thing you can do to any GT4/Spyder. From a performance and driving experience perspective its the biggest and best bang for the buck outside of the 4.5L.
I have not experienced the clutch issue first hand so not sure what the issue could be. Our lightweight clutch/flywheel package has never experienced that on close to 60 cars now.
Do you offer the gear box parts for sale for fitment by others? Potential Australian customer asking…..
Cheers,
Harry.
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M. Schneider (02-13-2022)
#54
I can only post what I see with the tools I have available. I don't have a "PORSCHE" measuring stick to use for comparison purposes. I use a Dyna Pack Dyno, so I can build a data base of baseline for HP and TQ from some of the best cars Porsche has produced in stock form….
Do you have a run from a stock 718 GT4 on your dyno for a before/after comparison to your 4.5L?
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#55
We do not have a final drive, never will. It simply will never be strong enough. Changing the ratio makes the pinion gear way too small and fragile.
Back in 2001 Porsche Motorsport offered a shorter R/P for the mighty GT3 R/RS race cars. They came with a disclaimer that they were only good for 15 hours of race use. They certainly did break after that time limit!
Our gearing change is the single best thing you can do to any GT4/Spyder. From a performance and driving experience perspective its the biggest and best bang for the buck outside of the 4.5L.
I have not experienced the clutch issue first hand so not sure what the issue could be. Our lightweight clutch/flywheel package has never experienced that on close to 60 cars now.
Back in 2001 Porsche Motorsport offered a shorter R/P for the mighty GT3 R/RS race cars. They came with a disclaimer that they were only good for 15 hours of race use. They certainly did break after that time limit!
Our gearing change is the single best thing you can do to any GT4/Spyder. From a performance and driving experience perspective its the biggest and best bang for the buck outside of the 4.5L.
I have not experienced the clutch issue first hand so not sure what the issue could be. Our lightweight clutch/flywheel package has never experienced that on close to 60 cars now.
Would the new gears 2-5 you recommend on this thread be the same for stock engine as well as the 4.5L conversion, or would you recommend going with even shorter gears for stock engines?
#56
FWIW Dundon have the same type dyno and they saw as high as 400 on a stock GT4. But a lot depends on the weather and how many pulls you do. To be honest though you could go 20 HP up or down for the baseline and it hardly makes a difference, the power gain is big. As you'd expect from adding half a litre of displacement on top of fitting a free flowing exhaust.
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Rick DeMan (01-27-2022)
#57
Just an FYI, we have a .75 ratio 6th gear available for install at the time if you wanted lower RPM's on the highway.
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2016 GT4-R
Rick DeMan
DeMan Motorsport
Upper Nyack, NY
845 727 3070
Porsche Sales & Service
Porsche Race services and parts
www.DeManMotorsport.com
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#58
#60
Car will be heading into storage for obvious reasons upon its return home next week, but she will be out and about often come the first warm day in March!!! Always happy to link up with other enthusiasts, especially @daaa nope so we can work on maximum corruption
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