Is the GTS 4.0 the GT3 Touring counterpart to the GT4?
11-22-2022, 07:03 PM
#16
No.
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11-22-2022, 07:20 PM
#18
Now that the GTS 4.0 has been out for a while and it has shown to be a wonderful car. I was just wondering about one more model for the the 718 line. I am curious if there would be any interest in a GT4 Touring model?? Porsche has pushed back the BEV Cayman/Boxster for another year and with the extra time on their hands maybe a different high performance model in addition to the Special Edition 4 cylinder models.
My thoughts of a GT4 Touring would be a wingless model GT4 but keeping the bigger GT4 ducktail spoiler and using the front end and splitter from the Spyder. Using the shorter gearing from the GT4RS along with the stock suspension and brakes from the GT4. This is just wishful thinking on my part I’m sure but I think it would be an interesting model that would sell very well. Just my opinion, what do you think?
My thoughts of a GT4 Touring would be a wingless model GT4 but keeping the bigger GT4 ducktail spoiler and using the front end and splitter from the Spyder. Using the shorter gearing from the GT4RS along with the stock suspension and brakes from the GT4. This is just wishful thinking on my part I’m sure but I think it would be an interesting model that would sell very well. Just my opinion, what do you think?
11-22-2022, 07:49 PM
#19
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I’m aware that they’ve publicly stated the Macan EV has been pushed back a year. In a news release and IPO docs Porsche stated the 718 follow-on EV is in danger of delay since it’s a shared architecture.
In danger of delay is not the same as delayed. If they get the Macan out on new timeline likely 718 EV ok. More Macan delays push out all three EV projects.
11-22-2022, 08:18 PM
#20
Huh? Spyder is likely more hardcore experience than GT4. Touring GT4 is a GT4 with 18 ways and no cage 
At this late stage in lifecycle, I doubt any special 4.0 models would have anything other than cosmetic changes, similar to Boxter 25 edition. Only thing I would think they could do is a GTS "Special" with GT4 SSK (as in Boxter 25) plus minor cosmetic changes such as wheels, striping, bespoke color, plus perhaps a bit more power just below GT4. Typical marketing at end of lifecycle, as 982 is getting old.
Now that the GTS 4.0 has been out for a while and it has shown to be a wonderful car. I was just wondering about one more model for the the 718 line. I am curious if there would be any interest in a GT4 Touring model?? Porsche has pushed back the BEV Cayman/Boxster for another year and with the extra time on their hands maybe a different high performance model in addition to the Special Edition 4 cylinder models.
My thoughts of a GT4 Touring would be a wingless model GT4 but keeping the bigger GT4 ducktail spoiler and using the front end and splitter from the Spyder. Using the shorter gearing from the GT4RS along with the stock suspension and brakes from the GT4. This is just wishful thinking on my part I’m sure but I think it would be an interesting model that would sell very well. Just my opinion, what do you think?
My thoughts of a GT4 Touring would be a wingless model GT4 but keeping the bigger GT4 ducktail spoiler and using the front end and splitter from the Spyder. Using the shorter gearing from the GT4RS along with the stock suspension and brakes from the GT4. This is just wishful thinking on my part I’m sure but I think it would be an interesting model that would sell very well. Just my opinion, what do you think?
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11-22-2022, 08:25 PM
#21
Three Wheelin'
You can order a winged GT3 with 18 ways too, so clearly that is not what Porsche would deem a GT3 a touring. What deems it a touring? Oh right, the lack of a fixed wing.
Last edited by vantage; 11-22-2022 at 08:28 PM.
11-22-2022, 08:36 PM
#22
No it isn't. A Gt3 touring is a GT3 with no fixed wing and adjusted aerodynamics. A Spyder is a GT4 with no fixed wing and adjusted aerodynamics, but also no top. I don't think lack of top makes it more hardcore than the GT4 and actually makes it more of a street car if anything.
You can order a winged GT3 with 18 ways too, so clearly that is not what Porsche would deem a GT3 a touring. What deems it a touring? Oh right, the lack of a fixed wing.
You can order a winged GT3 with 18 ways too, so clearly that is not what Porsche would deem a GT3 a touring. What deems it a touring? Oh right, the lack of a fixed wing.
11-22-2022, 08:39 PM
#23
Drifting
Now that the GTS 4.0 has been out for a while and it has shown to be a wonderful car. I was just wondering about one more model for the the 718 line. I am curious if there would be any interest in a GT4 Touring model?? Porsche has pushed back the BEV Cayman/Boxster for another year and with the extra time on their hands maybe a different high performance model in addition to the Special Edition 4 cylinder models.
My thoughts of a GT4 Touring would be a wingless model GT4 but keeping the bigger GT4 ducktail spoiler and using the front end and splitter from the Spyder. Using the shorter gearing from the GT4RS along with the stock suspension and brakes from the GT4. This is just wishful thinking on my part I’m sure but I think it would be an interesting model that would sell very well. Just my opinion, what do you think?
My thoughts of a GT4 Touring would be a wingless model GT4 but keeping the bigger GT4 ducktail spoiler and using the front end and splitter from the Spyder. Using the shorter gearing from the GT4RS along with the stock suspension and brakes from the GT4. This is just wishful thinking on my part I’m sure but I think it would be an interesting model that would sell very well. Just my opinion, what do you think?
I won’t put it pass them to squeeze out another model/ trim, limit production, and have Porschephiles drool all over it.
11-22-2022, 08:44 PM
#24
Three Wheelin'
11-22-2022, 08:49 PM
#25
I will just say that the GTS4.0/GT4 is one heck of a sports car and occupies a fairly unique space. There are certainly other two seat sports cars out there but are either much heavier and less maneuverable, more hardcore and not as easy to live with, or smaller with much less power and handling.
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11-22-2022, 08:53 PM
#26
The 718 Spyder, is the touring GT4.
It is not for racing, it can be optioned with burmeister, it has a multifunction steering wheel, and it doesnt have a big wing or a big splitter, or a cage..
It is not for racing, it can be optioned with burmeister, it has a multifunction steering wheel, and it doesnt have a big wing or a big splitter, or a cage..
11-22-2022, 09:29 PM
#27
The GT3 Touring has been the aspirational vehicle within the Porsche lineup for me since it's introduction. Given financial and availability realities, that isn't happening for now. I have a GTS 4.0 on order for April delivery, as I see it as a similar type of vehicle. Would it be wrong of me to describe the GTS 4.0 as the GT3 Touring equivalent of the GT4? I realize the GTS is not the equal of the Touring and is not a GT product, and that there is of course an actual 911 GTS slotted below the Touring, but the 4.0 seems to fit the ethos of the Touring more closely than anything Porsche makes in that it is a slightly detuned, de-winged version of the GT product upon which it is based, most importantly sharing the same engine, basically a GT car dialed down to 9 for the street.
I'd be interested in people's thoughts on this.
I'd go one step further and suggest that it no longer makes sense for Porsche to refer to the GTS 4.0 as a 718, and that a better name might be the GTS Touring or GT3 Touring.
I'd be interested in people's thoughts on this.
I'd go one step further and suggest that it no longer makes sense for Porsche to refer to the GTS 4.0 as a 718, and that a better name might be the GTS Touring or GT3 Touring.
11-23-2022, 11:26 AM
#28
Burning Brakes
For myself, I would prefer the PDK, but I do understand that a great many others would prefer a manual. Porsche offering a GT4 Touring would be wonderful and offering it with shorter gears for PDK and would be tremendous. I know that the GT3 Touring was manual only but since this just me wishing, I can want it to have a PDK with shorter gears. Hell… if they decided to offer a GT4 Touring as a manual only, I would still get the car. But since the latest GT4 had both transmissions, I would hope that a GT4 Touring would be available with both transmissions as well. The shorter geared transmissions would just make it a little bit sweeter.
Last edited by OldJedi; 11-23-2022 at 11:51 AM.
11-23-2022, 11:35 AM
#29
Burning Brakes
Is this a recent announcement?
I’m aware that they’ve publicly stated the Macan EV has been pushed back a year. In a news release and IPO docs Porsche stated the 718 follow-on EV is in danger of delay since it’s a shared architecture.
In danger of delay is not the same as delayed. If they get the Macan out on new timeline likely 718 EV ok. More Macan delays push out all three EV projects.
I’m aware that they’ve publicly stated the Macan EV has been pushed back a year. In a news release and IPO docs Porsche stated the 718 follow-on EV is in danger of delay since it’s a shared architecture.
In danger of delay is not the same as delayed. If they get the Macan out on new timeline likely 718 EV ok. More Macan delays push out all three EV projects.
11-23-2022, 11:45 AM
#30
Burning Brakes
Huh? Spyder is likely more hardcore experience than GT4. Touring GT4 is a GT4 with 18 ways and no cage
At this late stage in lifecycle, I doubt any special 4.0 models would have anything other than cosmetic changes, similar to Boxter 25 edition. Only thing I would think they could do is a GTS "Special" with GT4 SSK (as in Boxter 25) plus minor cosmetic changes such as wheels, striping, bespoke color, plus perhaps a bit more power just below GT4. Typical marketing at end of lifecycle, as 982 is getting old.
At this late stage in lifecycle, I doubt any special 4.0 models would have anything other than cosmetic changes, similar to Boxter 25 edition. Only thing I would think they could do is a GTS "Special" with GT4 SSK (as in Boxter 25) plus minor cosmetic changes such as wheels, striping, bespoke color, plus perhaps a bit more power just below GT4. Typical marketing at end of lifecycle, as 982 is getting old.
Last edited by OldJedi; 11-23-2022 at 06:36 PM.