welikethetrack

I came from a 991.2 gt3rs I drove for almost 3 years to a 718 gt4 manual....I can tell you they are much closer to each other than you would ever think tbh. I kind of thought if my 991.2 3rs was 90% racecar, my new gt4 will be maybe 50%, its like 75%-80%, they aren't as different as you would expect (mainly the gt4 isn't as soft/tame/compliant). Even a 991.2 gt3 is easier to live with, it's much less twitchy/tracks than the gt4 and it's more compliant imo, so the gt4 is not far off from the gt3rs, you're not missing as much as you would think. Both amazing cars.

The gt4rs though

Taffy66

I had a 2019 991.2GT3 RS WP for three years and sold it last October with 12 trackdays. I bought a really nice 718GT4 Manual, Clubsport with PCCBs to replace the RS and did my first trackday last Friday. Surprised me how fast it was on track both on straights and corners. Its much close to my old RS than I could ever hope for.
I'm picking up my new GT4 RS next week which I expect to be the badass child from my old RS and GT4, that is the best of both worlds. Still wish it a Manual though.

disden

no offense, but my word you are so wrong. There is no planet on which any competent driver can claim these 2 are similar and equals. I also had both at the same time and tracked them a lot, and they are not even close. GT4 is massively underpowered especially with manual trans, takes for ever for power to come on, especially if make mistake and let rpms drop below 5000. Additionally, the GT4 was oddly very numb at higher speeds in the feedback it gave through chassis and steering wheel. It was honestly kind of a disappointment. I sold the GT4 pretty quickly because it was just not a great car in comparison to tracking my GT3 RS. The GT4 was a better backroads street driver to enjoy a nice windy public road, hence got a Spyder instead. The GT3 RS came alive on track and was intoxicating, but needed to be at high speeds to truly enjoy. GT4 RS hopefully fixes a lot of 718 issues, ei power, increased feedback at speed, awful rear instability under braking, ect

Don’t get me wrong, the GT4 is a great car, but there is absolutely no way to say the are equals and that jumping from one to the other is the same. Simply not true. But, is it 1/2 the car of the 3RS because it’s 1/2 the price? Absolutely not, for the money it’s a great car and gives you great performance for 1/2 the price, so need to put it in perspective.

Prime

Well I'd argue they are closer together than a WRX STI or a Supra is to a GT4.

And to reverberate he never mentioned anything about being equal or close to equal, just suggested they were close to each other.
No one said they were equals or the same, now that is simply not true indeed.

welikethetrack

My thoughts exactly, would love a manual gt4rs more than ANYTHING!!!!

And yeah I don't know how me saying a GT4 and GT3rs are a lot more similar than you might think translated to one guy and 4 fan boys on here as "the same".

Yc911Kid

does that include coming 2024my or just for 2023my?

Yc911Kid

Is 25over a friend discount for you or for anyone?

disden

not a fanboy, well I am a Porsche fan for sure as I have owned and tracked all Gt cars extensively for years. GT3 RS is a special Car, kills me that I got rid of mine when my 992 GT3 allocation arrived 1.5 years ago. GT4 is a nice car, but not special. If some one is running similar times on track in these 2 cars then they are not experienced drivers. The GT4 is let down by its ancient suspension and a motor which is too anemic. I have a GT4 RS Coming soon, hoping it lives up to the hype and addresses some of those short comings which could make it an epic car, perhaps eclipsing the 991.2 RS, we shall see . Looking forward to comparing to my 992 GT3, as well as my 992 RS…whenever that arrives! Again no offense, but these cars in my hands do not feel similar at all at speed on track. That being said, I would take a GT4 for streets any day of the week as it’s a better car for lower speeds.

Itzkirb

my'23

Yc911Kid

Thanks!

mrdci

Yeah at 25K it would be hard for me to pass up.

GainesvilleGT4

My SA checked in on me to see how I was enjoying the 4RS yesterday. Can’t tell you how much I appreciate him and the sales manager at my dealer, stand-up guys and great to work with. I live in Florida but have made great contacts with dealers in the Midwest and like that we can agree on things with a (virtual) handshake and everyone does their part.

He told me their dealership was informed by Porsche that they will not be getting any more GT4RSs period. They received 3 total allocations and they’re all built and delivered, including mine. I asked him if he meant this was for MY23 and they would get more allocations later this year for MY24 and he said no more at all, period. I told him that the prevailing wisdom on RL was that there would be more allocations for MY24, he said it was possible other dealers would get MY24s built within the 2023 calendar year but that they’ve been informed there will be none built in 2024 as either MY24s or MY25s.

I asked him if he’d heard anything about RS Spyder allocations and he said nothing had been mentioned from Porsche. Just passing along information that came from an SA that’s always pulled through for me, been accurate when it comes to stop sales, etc. He mentioned no more GT4s or Spyders before I read it on RL. In any case, wanted to mention what I heard, may or may not be what happens in the future with all dealers, but as far as my dealer currently has been told is they’re not getting another 4RS again. AP could’ve been very accurate when he said the 4RS would be built for “2, 2 and half years”. Part of MY22, all of MY23, part of MY24.

Adrift

Wow, if 4RS are done, that could mean they scrap SRS entirely. Or it’ll be even MORE impossible to get.

UncleDude

Why would you make that leap? Most likely they're freeing production up for the spyder variant.

Adrift

I just (possibly erroneously) assumed there would be economies of scale producing both, and that the loss of that might doom what looks like an after-thought, red-headed-step child, low production model before it was born. Especially if its pricing was in sharp contrast to the much higher pricing of the upcoming new speedster.