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Old 11-19-2023 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TXshaggy
I'm not sure what the 991.1 stereo weight table and system weight math has to do with the Spyder RS.

You could have just said you don't like the Spyder RS and prefer the Boxster; we'd have believed you.

There are Boxster allocations available...
I'm saying what I want to say. Thanks for letting me know what I could have said instead. Will ponder that for the rest of the day.
Old 11-19-2023 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hf1
This 991 stereo system weight comparo was linked in the 4RS forum:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...%2011.97%20lbs.


Base: 6.2 lbs.
Bose: 11.97 lbs.
Burm: 14.00 lbs

So in 991, Bose is 6 lb heavier and Burmester is 8lb heavier than Base. The diffs are likely even smaller for 718. This makes the 2 lb Burmester penalty (vs Bose) the best quality/weight deal in Porschedom. The 8lb penalty vs Base is also worth it, IMO. This (Burmester option) is another pro for BGTS over SRS in addition to auto-top, 6sp manual, heated 2way seats, and heated steering wheel when comparing 4.0 NA Porsche roadsters for the ultimate backroads carver.
No way.

I own a Boxster GTS 4.0 and I bought a second home near the canyons specifically to enjoy my cars. It has 2-way seats, Bose, and standard PASM Sport; but no amount of weight savings makes the car a Spyder of any kind. I also own a 2016 Boxster Spyder which absolutely destroys the Boxster GTS 4.0 in terms of agility and handling prowess. I configured the BGTS with PDK to avoid the long gearing and to help make the car more of a handling weapon (more on that below). I would say BGTS is between good and very good in terms of handling; but it’s not excellent. Anything Spyder is way sportier in the canyons. I fully expected the BGTS to exceed the capabilities of my 981 Spyder when I ordered it, but I was very surprised with the result. I like the car just fine — excellent car — but it’s not a Spyder of any kind.

I expect the 718 Spyder RS to be the best handling and most athletic open-top sports car ever produced by Porsche (to date) and one of the top 5 most agile open-top cars ever produced in the history of the automobile regardless of engine power output. I’m not talking Nurburgring time, although it should mirror Cayman GT4RS with maybe a 4-second penalty; I am talking hairpin turns and technical road stuff like US-129/Tail of the Dragon. (I actually prefer the Blue Ridge Parkway and some other less known roads to US-129.)

The other thing is transmission. I am blessed to own both. While it’s really great fun to enjoy a manual on these kinds of backroads, there’s quite a bit of cerebral power that needs to be dedicated to shifting (nonstop) while driving on these kinds of roads at the limit. It’s one very burdensome extra thing to do. Conversely, with PDK, it allows the driver to dedicate cerebral resources to other areas in order to maximize not only speed but fun and safety. The PDK in a car like a GT car is lots of fun and it is an ally, not a detriment, when driving the car to its capabilities. Note that I am speaking as someone who has had his 981 Spyder transmission re-geared gears 2-5: that’s how much I value the manual.

I wonder what the Speedster folks/owners will say about Spyder RS once they’ve driven/owned it. I think only the 992 Speedster could outdo it.

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Old 11-19-2023 | 01:12 PM
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Does nobody like Vanadium ?
i have a set of screwdrivers in vanadium,
very useful on occasion

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Old 11-20-2023 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hf1
Great review, thanks! To confirm, were those Silver or Alu wheels? And a 987 Spyder is now closer to at least 3x the SRS prices in USA if accounting for ADM. And it comes with a manual.
The wheels are Satin Aluminium




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Old 11-20-2023 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by hf1
This 991 stereo system weight comparo was linked in the 4RS forum:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...%2011.97%20lbs.


Base: 6.2 lbs.
Bose: 11.97 lbs.
Burm: 14.00 lbs

So in 991, Bose is 6 lb heavier and Burmester is 8lb heavier than Base. The diffs are likely even smaller for 718. This makes the 2 lb Burmester penalty (vs Bose) the best quality/weight deal in Porschedom. The 8lb penalty vs Base is also worth it, IMO. This (Burmester option) is another pro for BGTS over SRS in addition to auto-top, 6sp manual, heated 2way seats, and heated steering wheel when comparing 4.0 NA Porsche roadsters for the ultimate backroads carver.
SRS sounds system comes from the trunk. 8 Ibs saved.
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Old 11-20-2023 | 08:39 AM
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[QUOTE=hf1;19115291]On the contrary. Many love it. It's a great color, and as SRS launch color it will probably be one of the most ordered colors. Would look great with Neodyme or even blue wheels. Some great pics here:
https://dailyrevs.com/listings/2024-...-grey-metallic

i ordered mine in Vanadium
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Old 11-21-2023 | 12:02 AM
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[QUOTE=bobsleigh;19120817]
Originally Posted by hf1
On the contrary. Many love it. It's a great color, and as SRS launch color it will probably be one of the most ordered colors. Would look great with Neodyme or even blue wheels. Some great pics here:
https://dailyrevs.com/listings/2024-...-grey-metallic

i ordered mine in Vanadium
Agreed, looks complex in direct sunlight.
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Old 11-21-2023 | 10:04 AM
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I ordered Vanadium, too, if there is no new color before mid-March (freezing date), I think I'll stay with it. It looks really good in direct sunlight. It has a classic look that matches the Spyder, like my actual Spyder in GT Silver. In the case of a GT4RS, it will not work well; that's why I went with a bold color like shark blue in my 992 GT3.
Old 11-21-2023 | 10:27 AM
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For those who want to go PTS, consider gulf blue and satin aluminum wheels:





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Old 11-21-2023 | 11:46 AM
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Default Additional thoughts from Matt Farrah

Here is a great listen to Matt and Zack on the TST podcast beginning at 11:55 minutes, the link below is queued and ready to go. He has additional comments and words about the SRS that add to the content of his video review.

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Old 11-21-2023 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
I don't feel that baby/light blues and other effeminate colors (like pink, Ruby Star Neo) fit SRS's bad-a$$ vibe. YMMV
The badassness gets truncated by it being a roadster and not having a big wing. This is the visual tension of this car: strives to be an RS, but it can't be, the job gets only half done.
Old 11-21-2023 | 12:05 PM
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Getting Vanadium and stuck between blue and Neodyme wheels. Also, whether to keep carbon on interior or do exterior color. We did the exterior color on interior of our Spyder and it's good.
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Originally Posted by Westcoast
Here is a great listen to Matt and Zack on the TST podcast beginning at 11:55 minutes, the link below is queued and ready to go. He has additional comments and words about the SRS that add to the content of his video review.

https://youtu.be/CDb2bzG6HDg?feature=shared&t=715
Thanks for posting!
Old 11-21-2023 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
For those who want to go PTS, consider gulf blue and satin aluminum wheels:
I had a Gulf Blue Cayman S and as much as I dislike black wheels since they hide the details and character, this is the one case where it I think it would have looked great. I had satin platinum with the Gulf Blue and it did look a bit soft. With black wheels I don't think there's anything effeminate about the colour.
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I think he was saying colors that could be described as effeminate do not suit an RS car (for his taste).

For example there are some beautiful blue PTS colors out there like Meissen, Gulf, Olymp, etc. Maybe effeminate was the wrong word choice. These colors are "pretty," "elegant," and almost universally loved by women and enjoyed by many individuals on the male side. I understand what he was saying: for him, an RS car -- Boxster or otherwise -- needs to be painted in a "strong" color that projects a certain boldness; not in a color that's "pretty."

Not saying whether I agree or not -- I am just unpacking what he said. I don't think he singled out the RS version of Spyder or meant to distinguish it between a Boxster and a Spyder or Spyder RS -- he meant to distinguish any RS car from a non-RS car. Since we are discussing Spyder RS, he mentioned the "the badass character of Spyder RS."

Member after member in this thread have stated that an RS car needs to be looked at in a different way when choosing colors. I think this is mainstream thought, even if the word "effeminate" would not be commonly chosen in such a statement.

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