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Removing rear calipers on 718 GT4 - brake line bracket

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Old 04-05-2021 | 09:35 PM
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If it's the bolt I'm remembering, then my 981 GT4 had access to it from the top.
On my 718 it is from the top; same as my old 981. Apparently something changed between the build of mine at one location and others at a later date at a different location.

What is your build date and where was it built?
Old 04-05-2021 | 10:09 PM
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On my 718 it is from the top; same as my old 981. Apparently something changed between the build of mine at one location and others at a later date at a different location.

What is your build date and where was it built?
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Old 04-05-2021 | 10:44 PM
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Its already been established that some 718s are different than 981s. So lets focus on those instead of the older, pre-facelift model; shall we.
Old 04-05-2021 | 11:15 PM
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OK, So: Does removing the aforementioned torx screw from its bracket actually alleviate the need to remove the larger, 2-bolt brake line bracket? Will it work?
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Originally Posted by ExMB
Its already been established that some 718s are different than 981s. So lets focus on those instead of the older, pre-facelift model; shall we.
I assume you're not talking to me, since you're the one who asked me what my build date and location was...
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Originally Posted by mgordon18
I assume you're not talking to me, since you're the one who asked me what my build date and location was...
I am, because by implication you indicated you had a 718 GT4 with a reference to a 981 GT4 with a picture posting by another member: Deerhunter. You also asked about a pic of a part of a 718 GT4 after it already had been determined there may be differences based on date and/or location to a 981.

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Could someone shoot a picture of this torx bolt in place? I had a bear of a time getting my caliper back on after installing the rear Tarett studs. I tried undoing every clip I could find back there. I think I saw the bolt you're talking about but was afraid to remove it for fear of not easily being able to get it back on. But it DID look like the key to much more slack. Does it sit a bit more behind the other wires?

If it's the bolt I'm remembering, then my 981 GT4 had access to it from the top.
Old 04-05-2021 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mgordon18
If it's the bolt I'm remembering, then my 981 GT4 had access to it from the top.
Originally Posted by ExMB
On my 718 it is from the top; same as my old 981. Apparently something changed between the build of mine at one location and others at a later date at a different location.

What is your build date and where was it built?
Originally Posted by ExMB
I am, because by implication you indicated you had a 718 GT4 with a reference to a 981 GT4 with a picture posting by another member: Deerhunter. You also asked about a pic of a part of a 718 GT4 after it already had been determined there may be differences based on date and/or location to a 981.
Ah - so it's the word "had" that is the miscommunication here. If I'd said "has" and if you'd checked out my signature, we'd be on the same page?

OK. I'll rephrase: "If it's the bolt I'm remembering, then my 981 GT4 has access to it from the top."

Sorry to get your attitude all worked up. Next time, let's try to be a bit less condescending, shall we?

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Originally Posted by mgordon18
OK, So: Does removing the aforementioned torx screw from its bracket actually alleviate the need to remove the larger, 2-bolt brake line bracket? Will it work?

Yes....the tab holding the line will be free from the larger bracket.
Right now I'm working on various solutions to this:

1) Custom build a new line like it was originally offered by Spiegler...they already advise against it but will do it as a custom job.
2) Custom build a new short line that goes from the bracket to the caliper....maybe extend it a bit more but it would be attached to the bracket so it doesn't get close to the wheel. Not sure it could be long enough to allow caliper removal.
3) Try to invert or modify the bracket so the screw is on top.....shouldn't be too difficult and easy to do.
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Here are some pictures from my car (Dec 2020 build in Stuttgart).

I do think I could probably fit a Torx key up in there and release the bolt, but it might chew the hell out of the bolt head, especially if I do this every time I replace the brake pads! The brake line itself prevents from positioning anything aligned with the bolt axis.

It doesn't look like an assembly error to me, it looks like the entire bracket is designed differently. What a stupid design.




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Old 04-11-2021 | 10:54 AM
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You cold take out the nut on the top or just drill it and either weld a nut or with epoxy on the other side..then use a regular screw from the top. But yes...really bad design
I still have to send the specs to Spiegler to get a quote on the hard line converted to SS line with a bit more lenght.
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Just wondering if anyone else has some insight to offer here.
Old 05-06-2021 | 09:01 AM
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Essex will be making a 10" long line to replace the hard line on the rear...will be testing. Once tested for fitment this may become part of the 718 Spiegler Kit or an option.
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Worked with Ryan from Essex on getting some custom lines to eliminate the rear hardline...that way you can take the caliper out without having to deal with the bracket.
Here you have some pics. Just sent the info to Essex and photos.

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Old 06-28-2021 | 10:46 AM
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I'm in for a set when Essex offers them.

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