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Old 03-22-2021, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramon Vennik
what I read on german sites is “Pleulschrauben” = connecting rod bolts.
But still no official announcement
Actually they did talk about the conrods being the issue until some guy started saying that "many" 4.0 had seen rod bolt failures. Two different issues, and hard to take the bolt failures one too seriously considering I've not seen a single person online documenting this issue with their car.

Rod bolts would be relatively easy to change at a dealership however compared to the con rods themselves.
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Old 03-22-2021, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by unclemat;[url=tel:17313861
17313861[/url]]Like replace bolts on conrods in the car through dropped oil pan? Still scary prospect of a dealer doing something like that.
Such a replacement on an in-line or V engine seems somewhat straight forward. Drop the bottom end, remove the crank, pull the rods and pistons, replace everything and close it up. On the E46 M3 it took a day to replace the crank bearings.

But on an H-6 isn’t the crank in the middle of a block that is split down the middle? Seems far more complex.
Old 03-22-2021, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sanderabernathy
Such a replacement on an in-line or V engine seems somewhat straight forward. Drop the bottom end, remove the crank, pull the rods and pistons, replace everything and close it up. On the E46 M3 it took a day to replace the crank bearings.

But on an H-6 isn’t the crank in the middle of a block that is split down the middle? Seems far more complex.
Yeah, not clear you do that in-situ.
Old 03-22-2021, 04:26 PM
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I was just informed mine is on the list and will be held at the port in Houston until they have more news. Silver GT4 with late February finish.
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got a screenshot of the status,
it says "WMC6 Stop Delivery"
a quick google search for "WMC6 porsche" returns results about Rod Bolt, so I guess it's really happening.
Dealer still has no real news on cause and is still airing on the software issue side of things. But that code is suspiciously in line with what is being reported.

Now I don't know enough about mechanics to evaluate if it's something simple enough on a flat 6 that I shouldn't be worried
about a dealership doing it, and that it's going to be essentially a "non event" in the car's record, or that it's a sign I should
seriously start thinking about back up plans...

EDIT: This was since debunked and latest information point to an issue with the connecting rod itself. It was just the craziest coincidence...

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Old 03-22-2021, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sassdouille
got a screenshot of the status,
it says "WMC6 Stop Delivery"
a quick google search for "WMC6 porsche" returns results about Rod Bolt, so I guess it's really happening.
Dealer still has no real news on cause and is still airing on the software issue side of things. But that code is suspiciously in line with what is being reported.

Now I don't know enough about mechanics to evaluate if it's something simple enough on a flat 6 that I shouldn't be worried
about a dealership doing it, and that it's going to be essentially a "non event" in the car's record, or that it's a sign I should
seriously start thinking about back up plans...
LINK

It's only $22 bucks!

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Old 03-22-2021, 04:58 PM
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Lol
If only they had gone for the 23 dollars one :P
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Old 03-22-2021, 05:35 PM
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Are the engines built approximate at the same time the car is entering body shop (V260)? Or are they assembled before, and then waiting somewhere in the storage before they go into the chassis?
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Presumably, they could also train and send some technicians over from Germany, to do this work in a quasi-centralized way in the delivery centers at the ports. For cars already at dealers, the dealer could remove and ship the engine to the same facilities.

I'd probably feel okay about taking delivery if that was the remedy. If it's someone from Porsche HQ doing the work, and they're doing this in a systematic way on a bunch of cars, you can feel pretty good about the workmanship. What you want to avoid is having to trust the random technician at your dealer, who doesn't encounter this sort of thing in their day-to-day experience.
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Old 03-22-2021, 05:53 PM
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It is my understanding, although I would love to hear from others with experience here as well, that if there is a known issue to be repaired/replaced, Porsche will do that before delivery to the dealership. Dealership could be left to do an inspection for possible repair but in this case, if there is a known problem, I think Porsche will address this prior to dealership delivery.
Old 03-22-2021, 05:55 PM
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Hmm... strange my GTS 40 is in that production window.. dealer is aware of the stop sale but mine (on a boat near Houston in 3 days) does not show up on list...
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Old 03-22-2021, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Jones;[url=tel:17314146
17314146[/url]]It is my understanding, although I would love to hear from others with experience here as well, that if there is a known issue to be repaired/replaced, Porsche will do that before delivery to the dealership. Dealership could be left to do an inspection for possible repair but in this case, if there is a known problem, I think Porsche will address this prior to dealership delivery.
True but sometimes the car isn’t stopped in the processing facility at the port by mistake or the problem is discovered after the car leaves the port.
Old 03-22-2021, 06:28 PM
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Most dealers do not have mechanics that have the know-how to tear down a motor for rebuild. They are generally just replaced as a complete unit.

I know of a single instance of 9A2 Evo motor that was torn down and rebuilt at a dealer. This was done without workshop instructions from PCNA because it was very early after release of the cars.
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For the masochists among us, here's a set of 5 videos showing what it takes to get to the rod bolts in a Cayman M97 flat 6 engine (I know, it's not the 982 4l engine...) :
IMO no way dealers will be tasked with doing this... if connecting rod bolts are really the issue... They could not warranty this work if done at the dealer IMO. It would probably cost Porsche less to create up an engine and send it over then to pay for the labor involved... never mind the warranty liability issues...
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Originally Posted by Jeff Jones
It is my understanding, although I would love to hear from others with experience here as well, that if there is a known issue to be repaired/replaced, Porsche will do that before delivery to the dealership. Dealership could be left to do an inspection for possible repair but in this case, if there is a known problem, I think Porsche will address this prior to dealership delivery.
The sales manager I spoke with today indicated that the port facilities are full blown shops, and that things can be repaired there efficiently and quicker than the dealership. They are also not sure if my car is in transit (it was released for transit and cleared port PDI), not sure if I've posted that as there are multiple back channel conversations going on lol.

I will try to remain calm until I have confirmation on the problem and the proposed fix.

(edit to see above that it is major surgery and probably not dealer level work which does seem to make sense)

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