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#166
Rod bolts would be relatively easy to change at a dealership however compared to the con rods themselves.
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#167
Originally Posted by unclemat;[url=tel:17313861
17313861[/url]]Like replace bolts on conrods in the car through dropped oil pan? Still scary prospect of a dealer doing something like that.
But on an H-6 isn’t the crank in the middle of a block that is split down the middle? Seems far more complex.
#168
Such a replacement on an in-line or V engine seems somewhat straight forward. Drop the bottom end, remove the crank, pull the rods and pistons, replace everything and close it up. On the E46 M3 it took a day to replace the crank bearings.
But on an H-6 isn’t the crank in the middle of a block that is split down the middle? Seems far more complex.
But on an H-6 isn’t the crank in the middle of a block that is split down the middle? Seems far more complex.
#170
got a screenshot of the status,
it says "WMC6 Stop Delivery"
a quick google search for "WMC6 porsche" returns results about Rod Bolt, so I guess it's really happening.
Dealer still has no real news on cause and is still airing on the software issue side of things. But that code is suspiciously in line with what is being reported.
Now I don't know enough about mechanics to evaluate if it's something simple enough on a flat 6 that I shouldn't be worried
about a dealership doing it, and that it's going to be essentially a "non event" in the car's record, or that it's a sign I should
seriously start thinking about back up plans...
EDIT: This was since debunked and latest information point to an issue with the connecting rod itself. It was just the craziest coincidence...
it says "WMC6 Stop Delivery"
a quick google search for "WMC6 porsche" returns results about Rod Bolt, so I guess it's really happening.
Dealer still has no real news on cause and is still airing on the software issue side of things. But that code is suspiciously in line with what is being reported.
Now I don't know enough about mechanics to evaluate if it's something simple enough on a flat 6 that I shouldn't be worried
about a dealership doing it, and that it's going to be essentially a "non event" in the car's record, or that it's a sign I should
seriously start thinking about back up plans...
EDIT: This was since debunked and latest information point to an issue with the connecting rod itself. It was just the craziest coincidence...
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#171
got a screenshot of the status,
it says "WMC6 Stop Delivery"
a quick google search for "WMC6 porsche" returns results about Rod Bolt, so I guess it's really happening.
Dealer still has no real news on cause and is still airing on the software issue side of things. But that code is suspiciously in line with what is being reported.
Now I don't know enough about mechanics to evaluate if it's something simple enough on a flat 6 that I shouldn't be worried
about a dealership doing it, and that it's going to be essentially a "non event" in the car's record, or that it's a sign I should
seriously start thinking about back up plans...
it says "WMC6 Stop Delivery"
a quick google search for "WMC6 porsche" returns results about Rod Bolt, so I guess it's really happening.
Dealer still has no real news on cause and is still airing on the software issue side of things. But that code is suspiciously in line with what is being reported.
Now I don't know enough about mechanics to evaluate if it's something simple enough on a flat 6 that I shouldn't be worried
about a dealership doing it, and that it's going to be essentially a "non event" in the car's record, or that it's a sign I should
seriously start thinking about back up plans...
It's only $22 bucks!
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#174
Presumably, they could also train and send some technicians over from Germany, to do this work in a quasi-centralized way in the delivery centers at the ports. For cars already at dealers, the dealer could remove and ship the engine to the same facilities.
I'd probably feel okay about taking delivery if that was the remedy. If it's someone from Porsche HQ doing the work, and they're doing this in a systematic way on a bunch of cars, you can feel pretty good about the workmanship. What you want to avoid is having to trust the random technician at your dealer, who doesn't encounter this sort of thing in their day-to-day experience.
I'd probably feel okay about taking delivery if that was the remedy. If it's someone from Porsche HQ doing the work, and they're doing this in a systematic way on a bunch of cars, you can feel pretty good about the workmanship. What you want to avoid is having to trust the random technician at your dealer, who doesn't encounter this sort of thing in their day-to-day experience.
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#175
It is my understanding, although I would love to hear from others with experience here as well, that if there is a known issue to be repaired/replaced, Porsche will do that before delivery to the dealership. Dealership could be left to do an inspection for possible repair but in this case, if there is a known problem, I think Porsche will address this prior to dealership delivery.
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#177
Originally Posted by Jeff Jones;[url=tel:17314146
17314146[/url]]It is my understanding, although I would love to hear from others with experience here as well, that if there is a known issue to be repaired/replaced, Porsche will do that before delivery to the dealership. Dealership could be left to do an inspection for possible repair but in this case, if there is a known problem, I think Porsche will address this prior to dealership delivery.
#178
Most dealers do not have mechanics that have the know-how to tear down a motor for rebuild. They are generally just replaced as a complete unit.
I know of a single instance of 9A2 Evo motor that was torn down and rebuilt at a dealer. This was done without workshop instructions from PCNA because it was very early after release of the cars.
I know of a single instance of 9A2 Evo motor that was torn down and rebuilt at a dealer. This was done without workshop instructions from PCNA because it was very early after release of the cars.
#179
For the masochists among us, here's a set of 5 videos showing what it takes to get to the rod bolts in a Cayman M97 flat 6 engine (I know, it's not the 982 4l engine...) :
IMO no way dealers will be tasked with doing this... if connecting rod bolts are really the issue... They could not warranty this work if done at the dealer IMO. It would probably cost Porsche less to create up an engine and send it over then to pay for the labor involved... never mind the warranty liability issues...
#180
It is my understanding, although I would love to hear from others with experience here as well, that if there is a known issue to be repaired/replaced, Porsche will do that before delivery to the dealership. Dealership could be left to do an inspection for possible repair but in this case, if there is a known problem, I think Porsche will address this prior to dealership delivery.
I will try to remain calm until I have confirmation on the problem and the proposed fix.
(edit to see above that it is major surgery and probably not dealer level work which does seem to make sense)
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