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Old 10-18-2020, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by n4v4nod
I agree... the whole gearing thing is a joke. It’s only an issue if you are redlining every gear. 🤦🏻‍♂️
Isn't that how you're supposed to drive a Porsche GT car?
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Old 10-18-2020, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ExMB
There is a post on a German forum that recently Sport Auto tested a PDK GT4 and that the numbers appear slower than the manual and that the car was heavier than expected.

That would be a first for Porsche....they usually publish conservative numbers and so far all the official info actually places the PDK ahead of the manual....
Old 10-19-2020, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
That would be a first for Porsche....they usually publish conservative numbers and so far all the official info actually places the PDK ahead of the manual....
there’s no way the PDK is slower, especially if the builds of the cars are the same. Builds matter, as motortrend tested the manual versus PDK 991.2 GT3s. The manual was just a hair slower around the same track on the same day with Pobst driving. The PDK car had sofas and iron brakes. Manual had buckets and PCCBs.
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Old 10-19-2020, 12:40 PM
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My BGTS 4.0 will have PDK. My car will be a daily driver, but I would've ordered a PDK even for weekend-only use. Not because of gear ratios or track times; I just happen to find it significantly more rewarding to drive than the 6MT, and I have had extended seat time in both. Obviously, others feel very differently.

Get the one you prefer, but don't let anyone talk you into thinking that you're less of an enthusiast if you prefer the PDK.
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Old 10-19-2020, 01:01 PM
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The way I see it - if you like being engaged, and in control, and shifting gears - get the MT. If you just want easiest and fastest lap times - PDK. When I drive PDK - i got bored with paddles real fast, and feel stupid doing it at the same time. Because I know car can do it much better without my input. And car just lets me play, while rolling eyes and always watching, ready to take control when I screwup. Not a good feel. So I go for MT.
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Old 10-19-2020, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by t-design
The way I see it - if you like being engaged, and in control, and shifting gears - get the MT. If you just want easiest and fastest lap times - PDK. When I drive PDK - i got bored with paddles real fast, and feel stupid doing it at the same time. Because I know car can do it much better without my input. And car just lets me play, while rolling eyes and always watching, ready to take control when I screwup. Not a good feel. So I go for MT.
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Old 10-19-2020, 01:22 PM
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To each their own. To me, PDK feels at least as engaging, and subjectively much quicker. Drive for yourself, then decide.
Old 10-19-2020, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sraj
My BGTS 4.0 will have PDK. My car will be a daily driver, but I would've ordered a PDK even for weekend-only use. Not because of gear ratios or track times; I just happen to find it significantly more rewarding to drive than the 6MT, and I have had extended seat time in both. Obviously, others feel very differently.

Get the one you prefer, but don't let anyone talk you into thinking that you're less of an enthusiast if you prefer the PDK.
I'm with you here, all my previous cars were manuals and my last two Porsches PDK and I must say, don't miss the grind one bit...
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Old 10-20-2020, 08:26 PM
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For the GT4, Porsche has posted technical specs showing the differences between MT and PDK for gearing and performance.

The differences in gear ratios make sense. Through each gear, PDK has faster acceleration, lower top speed.

And although PDK has a weight penalty, adjustment in ratios (and probably marginally better shift times), the acceleration times for PDK is also improved:

(vs Manual)

0–60 mph: 3.7s (4.2s)
0–100 km/h: 3.9s (4.4s)
0–160 km/h: 8.5s (9.0s)
0–200 km/h: 13.4s (13.8s)
Top speed: 302 km/h (304 km/h)

Documents can be found here:
https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...718_cayman_gt4

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Old 10-20-2020, 09:00 PM
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Country road on a Sunday morning, take your pick, but probably a 6 speed will be more fun and involving.

While at the track, PDK all the way. Faster shifting, doesn't upset the car while changing gears mid corner or under heavy braking, and definitely not going to have an accidental money shift.
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PDK for wife so I can have a few road pops and nap on the way home.
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Old 10-20-2020, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by KelvinC
For the GT4, Porsche has posted technical specs showing the differences between MT and PDK for gearing and performance.

The differences in gear ratios make sense. Through each gear, PDK has faster acceleration, lower top speed.

And although PDK has a weight penalty, adjustment in ratios (and probably marginally better shift times), the acceleration times for PDK is also improved:

(vs Manual)

0–60 mph: 3.7s (4.2s)
0–100 km/h: 3.9s (4.4s)
0–160 km/h: 8.5s (9.0s)
0–200 km/h: 13.4s (13.8s)
Top speed: 302 km/h (304 km/h)

Documents can be found here:
https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...718_cayman_gt4

PDFs attached.
I don't know how you found this but kudos to you.

Now we all have confirmation what the actual ratios are.
Old 10-23-2020, 03:51 PM
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I think first test of pdk ?

Old 10-23-2020, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by -Methanol-
I think first test of pdk ?
That M2C is impressive...
Old 10-23-2020, 05:02 PM
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A bit more depth on this discussion. https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...der-pdk-4.html


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