Very interesting read for people debating between PCCB and Iron rotors
#46
17.3 kg or 38.1 lbs of unsprung weight savings of PCCB on GT4/Spyder. Say thanks to Janko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0i8...youtu.be&t=305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0i8...youtu.be&t=305
#47
Janko is not any youtuber, in another videos this guy take the time of weight everything and/or get the official numbers with the dealer of many optional items to compare them (audio, lights, etc.), he's been doing this weight comparison since he specced a Cayman T so in this regard I trust in his info. Anyway he opted not to have the PCCB despite the weight savings
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I am "This Guy"...the one who was quoted in the original post. Lol I'm happy to answer any specific questions people have about PCCB vs. Iron. If you haven't seen the thread about our AP Racing Radi-CAL Brake Kits with iron discs in the 991 GT3 section, please do. It has loads of real-world owner feedback, most of whom are having a far better experience with our equipment vs. stock, and are consistently setting personal best lap times: https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...inally-20.html
BTW, we are bringing in a 718 GT4 tomorrow to test fit our AP Racing Radi-CAL Brake Kit on it. Can't wait to see the car!
Thanks!
BTW, we are bringing in a 718 GT4 tomorrow to test fit our AP Racing Radi-CAL Brake Kit on it. Can't wait to see the car!
Thanks!
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Bob Rouleau (07-27-2020)
#49
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I am "This Guy"...the one who was quoted in the original post. Lol I'm happy to answer any specific questions people have about PCCB vs. Iron. If you haven't seen the thread about our AP Racing Radi-CAL Brake Kits with iron discs in the 991 GT3 section, please do. It has loads of real-world owner feedback, most of whom are having a far better experience with our equipment vs. stock, and are consistently setting personal best lap times: https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...inally-20.html
BTW, we are bringing in a 718 GT4 tomorrow to test fit our AP Racing Radi-CAL Brake Kit on it. Can't wait to see the car!
Thanks!
BTW, we are bringing in a 718 GT4 tomorrow to test fit our AP Racing Radi-CAL Brake Kit on it. Can't wait to see the car!
Thanks!
#50
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Any info about when the new PSCB brakes will become available for the 718? PCCB's end as an option for the GTS this October. Hopefully that means they will be replaced by PSCB as the upgrade from irons.
#51
Another reason why PCCBs are just a pain to have. The original poster of this issue said it's NOT a rock, it's literally from compression and Gs at the track and somehow the barrel touched the disc edge. That's just crazy for a $8k brake upgrade.
#52
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^ Wow, maybe it's the angle but can you even fit a finger between the rotor and the wheel?
#53
I have this ocean front property in Arizona you might be interested in...
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#54
I spec'd my Spyder with PCCB. Here's why......
1. I have never owned a car with them before
2. Brake dust issue
3. Lower unsprung weight and its effect on RIDE QUALITY, which, after owning many lower weight wheel/tire combos, feels very noticeable, especially on less than perfect pavement.
Let me ask this......
If PCCB was standard, and iron was the extra cost option, would you do it?
1. I have never owned a car with them before
2. Brake dust issue
3. Lower unsprung weight and its effect on RIDE QUALITY, which, after owning many lower weight wheel/tire combos, feels very noticeable, especially on less than perfect pavement.
Let me ask this......
If PCCB was standard, and iron was the extra cost option, would you do it?
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mazyo (08-05-2020)
#55
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Maybe. If pccb still costed $25k to replace, then maybe I’d pay more for the option that offered similar performance yet was more robust, less fragile, and easier and cheaper to replace or modify with a much wider selection of alternative replacement rotors and pads.
#56
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I spec'd my Spyder with PCCB. Here's why......
1. I have never owned a car with them before
2. Brake dust issue
3. Lower unsprung weight and its effect on RIDE QUALITY, which, after owning many lower weight wheel/tire combos, feels very noticeable, especially on less than perfect pavement.
Let me ask this......
If PCCB was standard, and iron was the extra cost option, would you do it?
1. I have never owned a car with them before
2. Brake dust issue
3. Lower unsprung weight and its effect on RIDE QUALITY, which, after owning many lower weight wheel/tire combos, feels very noticeable, especially on less than perfect pavement.
Let me ask this......
If PCCB was standard, and iron was the extra cost option, would you do it?
#57
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What wheel is that? doesn't look OEM and seems like there is a raised black barrel part? Maybe too tight of a fit but those marks would be from the calipers first before the rotors. I thought Porsche engineers came up with a solution to stop wheels flexing under load, I guess they need to go back to the drawing board .
#58
What wheel is that? doesn't look OEM and seems like there is a raised black barrel part? Maybe too tight of a fit but those marks would be from the calipers first before the rotors. I thought Porsche engineers came up with a solution to stop wheels flexing under load, I guess they need to go back to the drawing board .
Post #83
Not sure why someone would lie about this happening...point is this kind of thing shouldn't happen to someone buying $8k brakes. Ridiculous. But hope it doesn't happen to either of you...Here's another one...
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-turb...mic-brake.html
and another one...
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...nightmare.html
unfortunately, this is a thing for PCCB owners to deal with.
Last edited by _nosubstitute_; 07-26-2020 at 11:35 AM.
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https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/8623...the-gt4-6.html
Post #83
Not sure why someone would lie about this happening...point is this kind of thing shouldn't happen to someone buying $8k brakes. Ridiculous. But hope it doesn't happen to either of you...
Post #83
Not sure why someone would lie about this happening...point is this kind of thing shouldn't happen to someone buying $8k brakes. Ridiculous. But hope it doesn't happen to either of you...
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n4v4nod (07-26-2020)