colnagoG60

Low lap times are one thing, and driving better to get them is another. However instilling driver confidence helps with both. People making the same "observations", and making changes, are ones who drive strictly on the street, as well as those who track. I guess Randy Pobst needs some refresher courses? Or the guy in the vid who is a Ring instructor, who also made a vid that the car looked like the "pro driver" had to lift in a few sections when setting that low 7 min, because the car looked unsettled. My post was only more information and insight for someone who was looking to do Manthey anyway, but I too had my own "complaints" about my dampers, which I also took steps to correct...and my car will probably never see the track, with me owning it.

Porsche may know what they are doing, but what they are doing may not always align with what people want, or to make the car the best it can be. The rear-end instability from high speed braking seems to be driving a lot of toe-link sales, for both generations of the GT4?

As always, YMMV.

Mr. Adair

This ^

168glhs1986

How good is too good? A sub 7 min 4 RS wouldn't align with Porsche's other offerings. Although an engineering marval never to be replicated from Porsche again, The 4 RS still has it's place in the pecking order.

Which is probably why Porsche doesn't add a Manthey Racing option from the factory.

I would accept a delay for this option and I would pay a lot for it.

colnagoG60

My concerns aren't about lap times...I couldn't care less Definitely not saying they aren't good cars, just not the point of my posts. Like some others, I just feel the car gets unsettled, at speed, over road imperfections. "My car" was "jumpy/bouncy/jostley (<sp?)", to a point where I was getting lifted off the seat, or bumps caused me to saw at the wheel. I felt l like I had to wait too long for the car to settle, because the dampers seem like they are doing the opposite of what they should, before I can enter any steering inputs. As it pertains to your focus, that would affect my lap times. For me, I just didn't feel comfortable pushing the car, in any situation. So I "changed" all that, understanding that a car cannot be configured to handle all conditions, equally well. Just wished they'd make it handle bumps better, the 3rd time around.

As far as how Porsche releases something from the factory, I am of the strong opinion that decisions were/are made to keep the car safe, as it is being marketed as an entry level track car, in an effort to mitigate accidents/law suits (Audi TT, Toyota MR2, Suzuki Swift, et al), or making "another" car labeled "Widow maker". Fair enough...the business must survive above all else.

blackmist27

Also let us not forget that Porsche didnt even spend too much time developing the aero on the 4RS. If ultimate lap times was the objective, i'm sure there is more benefit that could have been engineered in. However per the comments already mentioned, the car is supposed to still fit within the confines of the lineup. This is an exercise in doing something fun for the last iteration. that makes it special. I am just happy I am getting one and look forward to enjoying it as intended from the factory for the first few years. at some point, maybe swap suspension for something more streetable (since that is where it will be mostly). other than that, be happy.

KLCC 88

Just ordered the JCR Shifters....damn videos....ordering stuff when cars not even in production yet...

colnagoG60

"Shades" of colors matter. He probably needed more dark blue, or black mixed in. I was thinking of going this route if I was ever able to get an allocation, given that the color I'd like isn't available via stock, nor PTS. Less expensive than, PTS, and less expensive than PPF.

cafe_racer

I've watched a few customer videos on peelable paint, seems like it doesn't do well with wear and tear. I also recon this guy is paid to advertise this product.

raymort

Total promotional thing. Seems like a major mess.

jmartpr

So he paid for PTS and now he is painting the car a different color????? What Ruby Star not popular enough at C&C?
These "car experts" Youtubers are really something....

cafe_racer

Some are better than others. Seeing Chris Harris drive a car isn’t going to give a great understanding of the performance I will get out of it (I’m average). However someone more enthusiast focused like a car YouTuber helps give a realistic representation.

This JWW guy is neither though. Just check the controversy around his GR Yaris and charging to feature tuners in his videos. He clearly spec’d the car to sell down the road and is doing the peelable paint thing as advertising (which he rudely doesn’t disclose).

NCheok

Did somebody talk about the Great JWW?

I'll just leave this here on the JWW Yaris fiasco, thank you Harris for throwing this out in the open.

Adrift

WRT JWW, all the big-bank YT reviewers just annoy the F out of me. Not sure why I'm so petty. lol "Wow, look at how many absurdly expensive cars you can afford. Yay you." Schmee is way up that list, for me. I was a big Car Guys fan, but they kind of fall in this club, and when I commented on one of their video about the merits of EVs, they immediately went full medieval on me, like a poorly mannered 12 year old. "Read a book" was in there; ironic response, that. Done and done.

colnagoG60

Not that I'm a fan of "J. Peterman", I wonder if something happened with the mix of Ruby Stone when they mixed his batch? It was showing more "pink" on my monitor than usual, and "funnily enough", as soon as the painter started pulling the car in the shop, at the early part of the video, when the car was lit on the opposite side, I thought, "now the shaded side looked more like Ruby", and Peterman commented the same.

colnagoG60

I've heard similar, but the of the ones you've seen, did any have the clear coat applied as well? I haven't heard any feedback on those...wonder if the clear coats change the game?