718 GT4RS
12-01-2021, 03:40 PM
#4757
Race Director
Originally Posted by Zhao
Weight is huge, i could write a paper on why adding lightness is the best thing ever imo, but it is only a factor on the very top end and even than it’s not necessarily a deal breaker, just a handicap.
Go karts prove it best. It took me about 20 minutes of driving to get on the top 10 list at one local go kart track at 215-220lbs. The facility said at that time the fastest guy on their track was a short skinny guy probably 90-100lbs lighter. Another big local go kart place I hadn’t gone to in 10 years I recently went with about 12 instructor friends. One guy goes there all the time and weighs about 160lbs and has one of the fastest times there. First session out I was within 0.03 of his time and no one drove faster than us all night. So if I can get into the top 10 with a gross vehicle weight of 15-20% how significant is weight really on the amateur level?
I always raced my race car overweight for the class with SCCA rules and had no problems winning (it was about 250lbs overweight for what was legal for the class). With Nasa rules I’ve raced my 19lb/hp car in the 11lb/hp car class and still won and just about set their class record for the track.
The moral of the story is we aren't Michael Schumacher or racing against Senna so there is tons of room to go faster than everyone else just by driving better.
Go karts prove it best. It took me about 20 minutes of driving to get on the top 10 list at one local go kart track at 215-220lbs. The facility said at that time the fastest guy on their track was a short skinny guy probably 90-100lbs lighter. Another big local go kart place I hadn’t gone to in 10 years I recently went with about 12 instructor friends. One guy goes there all the time and weighs about 160lbs and has one of the fastest times there. First session out I was within 0.03 of his time and no one drove faster than us all night. So if I can get into the top 10 with a gross vehicle weight of 15-20% how significant is weight really on the amateur level?
I always raced my race car overweight for the class with SCCA rules and had no problems winning (it was about 250lbs overweight for what was legal for the class). With Nasa rules I’ve raced my 19lb/hp car in the 11lb/hp car class and still won and just about set their class record for the track.
The moral of the story is we aren't Michael Schumacher or racing against Senna so there is tons of room to go faster than everyone else just by driving better.
12-01-2021, 03:46 PM
#4758
Weight is huge, i could write a paper on why adding lightness is the best thing ever imo, but it is only a factor on the very top end and even than it’s not necessarily a deal breaker, just a handicap.
Go karts prove it best. It took me about 20 minutes of driving to get on the top 10 list at one local go kart track at 215-220lbs. The facility said at that time the fastest guy on their track was a short skinny guy probably 90-100lbs lighter. Another big local go kart place I hadn’t gone to in 10 years I recently went with about 12 instructor friends. One guy goes there all the time and weighs about 160lbs and has one of the fastest times there. First session out I was within 0.03 of his time and no one drove faster than us all night. So if I can get into the top 10 with a gross vehicle weight of 15-20% how significant is weight really on the amateur level?
I always raced my race car overweight for the class with SCCA rules and had no problems winning (it was about 250lbs overweight for what was legal for the class). With Nasa rules I’ve raced my 19lb/hp car in the 11lb/hp car class and still won and just about set their class record for the track.
The moral of the story is we aren't Michael Schumacher or racing against Senna so there is tons of room to go faster than everyone else just by driving better.
Go karts prove it best. It took me about 20 minutes of driving to get on the top 10 list at one local go kart track at 215-220lbs. The facility said at that time the fastest guy on their track was a short skinny guy probably 90-100lbs lighter. Another big local go kart place I hadn’t gone to in 10 years I recently went with about 12 instructor friends. One guy goes there all the time and weighs about 160lbs and has one of the fastest times there. First session out I was within 0.03 of his time and no one drove faster than us all night. So if I can get into the top 10 with a gross vehicle weight of 15-20% how significant is weight really on the amateur level?
I always raced my race car overweight for the class with SCCA rules and had no problems winning (it was about 250lbs overweight for what was legal for the class). With Nasa rules I’ve raced my 19lb/hp car in the 11lb/hp car class and still won and just about set their class record for the track.
The moral of the story is we aren't Michael Schumacher or racing against Senna so there is tons of room to go faster than everyone else just by driving better.
12-01-2021, 03:50 PM
#4759
12-01-2021, 03:52 PM
#4760
Can also start with light-weighting the driver (no idea how much you weigh but I've gained 10-15 lbs with the pandemic, it's been tasty!).
12-01-2021, 03:52 PM
#4761
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LnC993 (12-02-2021)
12-01-2021, 04:28 PM
#4764
I'd love to think they'll make 400 of them for Canada and that I'll get one eventually but the world is a bit different today from what it was in 2018. All these shipping and supply chain issues aren't going away quickly and I imagine they'll impact these cars just like everything else.
12-01-2021, 04:35 PM
#4765
Pro
Best silver Porsche offers IMHO.
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porscheflat6 (12-01-2021)
12-01-2021, 04:45 PM
#4767
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I'm more smitten with the idea of 718 GTRSpyder, but when that dream didn't pan out, I started considering the GT4RS because well it's obviously going to be amazing and I communicated with one of my SA friends and was told what many of you already know: the 918 owners have first option but in 2023 year build there will be allocations available.
Last edited by jeanrabelais; 12-03-2021 at 12:10 AM.
12-01-2021, 04:51 PM
#4768
Racer
Weight is huge, i could write a paper on why adding lightness is the best thing ever imo, but it is only a factor on the very top end and even than it’s not necessarily a deal breaker, just a handicap.
Go karts prove it best. It took me about 20 minutes of driving to get on the top 10 list at one local go kart track at 215-220lbs. The facility said at that time the fastest guy on their track was a short skinny guy probably 90-100lbs lighter. Another big local go kart place I hadn’t gone to in 10 years I recently went with about 12 instructor friends. One guy goes there all the time and weighs about 160lbs and has one of the fastest times there. First session out I was within 0.03 of his time and no one drove faster than us all night. So if I can get into the top 10 with a gross vehicle weight of 15-20% how significant is weight really on the amateur level?
I always raced my race car overweight for the class with SCCA rules and had no problems winning (it was about 250lbs overweight for what was legal for the class). With Nasa rules I’ve raced my 19lb/hp car in the 11lb/hp car class and still won and just about set their class record for the track.
The moral of the story is we aren't Michael Schumacher or racing against Senna so there is tons of room to go faster than everyone else just by driving better.
Go karts prove it best. It took me about 20 minutes of driving to get on the top 10 list at one local go kart track at 215-220lbs. The facility said at that time the fastest guy on their track was a short skinny guy probably 90-100lbs lighter. Another big local go kart place I hadn’t gone to in 10 years I recently went with about 12 instructor friends. One guy goes there all the time and weighs about 160lbs and has one of the fastest times there. First session out I was within 0.03 of his time and no one drove faster than us all night. So if I can get into the top 10 with a gross vehicle weight of 15-20% how significant is weight really on the amateur level?
I always raced my race car overweight for the class with SCCA rules and had no problems winning (it was about 250lbs overweight for what was legal for the class). With Nasa rules I’ve raced my 19lb/hp car in the 11lb/hp car class and still won and just about set their class record for the track.
The moral of the story is we aren't Michael Schumacher or racing against Senna so there is tons of room to go faster than everyone else just by driving better.
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12-01-2021, 06:18 PM
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