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06-22-2016, 06:54 PM
#46
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Porsche's hands are tied - they need to meet economy and emissions standards, and the turbo allows that to happen for their mainstream cars... so that the GT cars can get away with NA for a while longer.
There will always be "enthusiast" buyers... and then the "badge" buyers. Let the badge buyers have their 4 banger turbos and be none the wiser, so that the enthusiasts can enjoy the NA glory as long as possible. It's a necessary evil... that allows a means to an end.
There will always be "enthusiast" buyers... and then the "badge" buyers. Let the badge buyers have their 4 banger turbos and be none the wiser, so that the enthusiasts can enjoy the NA glory as long as possible. It's a necessary evil... that allows a means to an end.
06-22-2016, 08:07 PM
#47
Stopped by porsche of color springs today after work to see the Singer 911 that's on display (freaking amazing btw) and they just got 2 718's in. SA was kind enough to start one up for me; the sound was not horrible (though not great either). I'd say it's the best I could expect to hear from a turbo 4. Not in the same league as the spyder for sure but better than the sound clips I've heard.
I hate the rear end in person even more than I did in pics.
Didn't snap pics, was too busy drooling over the singer.
I hate the rear end in person even more than I did in pics.
Didn't snap pics, was too busy drooling over the singer.
Where are the pics of the Singer?!?! :P
06-22-2016, 08:14 PM
#51
06-22-2016, 08:17 PM
#52
Rennlist Member
It's the owner of dealership's personal car. It was just delivered, not for sale, as far as I know.. His yellow 918 is in the lobby as well.
SA said it cost in the neighborhood of 540 k.
SA said it cost in the neighborhood of 540 k.
06-23-2016, 12:58 AM
#54
Intermediate
Again - the S also has lag, there's no way around it. Connected to a PDK and running in auto the feeling of the lag is probably masked a little by the gearbox selecting a lower gear while the boost builds up.
But, run in manual mode, do a throttle pedal movement from 0 or part throttle to full, and you will feel how the boost builds up. It is physics and nature law - not even Porsches engineers can overcome that. Some will like it (or not be bothered) and some won't.
But, run in manual mode, do a throttle pedal movement from 0 or part throttle to full, and you will feel how the boost builds up. It is physics and nature law - not even Porsches engineers can overcome that. Some will like it (or not be bothered) and some won't.
I can compare it similar to the anti-lag setup found in WRC cars.
06-23-2016, 01:52 AM
#55
Holy crap. What's under the 'hood'? It says 4.0, so it better be the Mezger mill. And it should have 6 gears, correct? They're supposed to have amazing interiors, but no pic of that one. I remember seeing one with incredible beige seats and inserts. What platform is that? 968 or 993?
06-24-2016, 05:12 AM
#56
Burning Brakes
It is not correct to compare W/G to an ALS.
06-24-2016, 05:38 AM
#57
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Holy crap. What's under the 'hood'? It says 4.0, so it better be the Mezger mill. And it should have 6 gears, correct? They're supposed to have amazing interiors, but no pic of that one. I remember seeing one with incredible beige seats and inserts. What platform is that? 968 or 993?
Back on topic, here's the 718 I saw in agate grey
http://www.porscheofcoloradosprings....er--c-1270.htm
90k.. And no leather interior..eesh.
They had one in graphite blue as well.
06-24-2016, 12:50 PM
#58
Burning Brakes
That is a lot of letters... :/
06-24-2016, 01:48 PM
#59
Take away the sound of the car and then think about the car. It's a step forward in almost every single way. Now move ahead in a couple years. People who have no idea what a Porsche is "supposed to sound like" have become entrenched in the Porsche brand with this sound. Personally, I think this is much ado about nada. Do we care more about how these cars perform or about how they sound? There are many thousands of current Porsche owners driving around 4 cylinder cars who will argue quite strongly with you that a Porsche is much more about handling, acceleration, and overall great engineering than exhaust note. Much of this reminds me of the air cooled water cooled hot air from the late 90's. 
06-24-2016, 02:25 PM
#60
But the air cooled / water cooled issued had no impact on throttle response. FI vs. NA does. So that debate isn't really analogous.
Personally, I really like the look of the new car and I could give barely more than a rat's *** about the sound (unless it was just downright awful). Throttle response is all that would matter to me. I know the rest of the car (suspension, steering, etc.) is going to be better than the 981, but I have no patience for FI throttle response issues at all. And I've never, ever driven a FI car that had spot on throttle response, including the base .2 991 I test drove. Great car, but I could absolutely tell I was not driving an NA car. I am looking forward to driving a 718 S though to see what it's like.
Personally, I really like the look of the new car and I could give barely more than a rat's *** about the sound (unless it was just downright awful). Throttle response is all that would matter to me. I know the rest of the car (suspension, steering, etc.) is going to be better than the 981, but I have no patience for FI throttle response issues at all. And I've never, ever driven a FI car that had spot on throttle response, including the base .2 991 I test drove. Great car, but I could absolutely tell I was not driving an NA car. I am looking forward to driving a 718 S though to see what it's like.