Replacement to 718
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Replacement to 718
Is there any information on what the replacement to 718 or a 718.2 would have from an engine standpoint? Will they abandon the 4 cylinder and use a detuned version of the 718 GT4 engine?
When is new car coming - 2021?
When is new car coming - 2021?
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No one knows for sure. All speculation right now.
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You may have seen the spy videos of a 718 Boxster and Cayman at Nürburgring a month or so ago doing laps with what was definitely a 6 cylinder naturally aspirated engine. Does that mean they will be production cars? No. Is it possible? Yes.
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Could they tell from the sound? Mmmm interesting
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That would be a sad day in my books.
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The 4 banger 718 is likely here to stay, mostly because of tax laws in China that are based on engine displacement, but also because of EPA requirements.
BUT, there is now the F6 in the GT4 and Spyder so I don't think we can complain too much. There have been rumors of a GT4RS (and spy shots of one as recently as last week) and rumors of a "Touring" version of the GT4—basically, a GT4 without the wing which would be a great solution and pretty much satisfy the need for a 6cyl in the platform, match the 911 lineup, and without them having to say that they made a mistake by introducing the 4cyl.
So, yeah, there's hope.
As for the next big iteration? Who knows. Eventually we'll likely see a hybrid powertrain because...well, it's inevitable.
BUT, there is now the F6 in the GT4 and Spyder so I don't think we can complain too much. There have been rumors of a GT4RS (and spy shots of one as recently as last week) and rumors of a "Touring" version of the GT4—basically, a GT4 without the wing which would be a great solution and pretty much satisfy the need for a 6cyl in the platform, match the 911 lineup, and without them having to say that they made a mistake by introducing the 4cyl.
So, yeah, there's hope.
As for the next big iteration? Who knows. Eventually we'll likely see a hybrid powertrain because...well, it's inevitable.
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I sure hope so. That 4 banger should have never found its way in. The 718 boxster looks and sounds cheap now.
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I don't know about cheap. It looks and feels the part of the Boxster/Cayman family. However, if Porsche replaces the 4 with a 6, turbo or not, the 718 4 cylinders in MYs 17, 18, 19, 20(?) with be the heresy years of the Boxster/Cayman legacy and unlike many 987s and 981s which will reach collectable status, no 4 cylinder 718 ever will. Although, you can find plenty of new 2 year old 718s with no miles on them, therefore prime candidates to buy and never drive as if someone might want to pay a premium for it in 20 years. Nah. It's always going to be classed along with the 914 and 924 in future desirability. Guess it's unfortunate Porsche already used 934 on an actually historic 911.
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I feel that the 4-cyl 718s are going to be treated much the same way as the 912s were treated in the 911 world. They've never been collectable but they will provide great entry points for budding collectors and enthusiasts who still can't afford the other Porsche options in 15-30 years. Then again, the automotive landscape may be unrecognizable in 20 years due to electrification and environment laws so it's hard to tell if people will even be able to use/buy ICE cars at that point. But if that's the case you can just kill me now anyway.
The difference is that the 718 is arguably a BETTER car than the 981...in every way but the one that matters anyway, soul. Regardless, they ARE still great cars. Maybe they'll all be turned into track cars because you'll be able to get them cheaper, sooner.
The difference is that the 718 is arguably a BETTER car than the 981...in every way but the one that matters anyway, soul. Regardless, they ARE still great cars. Maybe they'll all be turned into track cars because you'll be able to get them cheaper, sooner.
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I'm debating that right now. I've only done private track days thus far and have been able to drive my 981 Boxster GTS. Looking at some other track days next year and I won't be able to drive my Boxster due to the regulations on convertibles. Means I need to pick up a coupe. I have a 991.2 911 but it's a base Carrera and my daily. Not something I want to track. The 718 GT4 is too far out in terms of deliveries. So I'm kinda left with a 991.2 GT3 or a 718 Cayman GTS. I can get a 718 GTS for $70K or less and the wheels, tires, and brakes will all transfer from my 981 to the 718 for track and autocross. But a GT3 is a GT3. Albeit ludicrous for our tiny autocross space (for which the Cayman would be perfect).
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I'm debating that right now. I've only done private track days thus far and have been able to drive my 981 Boxster GTS. Looking at some other track days next year and I won't be able to drive my Boxster due to the regulations on convertibles. Means I need to pick up a coupe. I have a 991.2 911 but it's a base Carrera and my daily. Not something I want to track. The 718 GT4 is too far out in terms of deliveries. So I'm kinda left with a 991.2 GT3 or a 718 Cayman GTS. I can get a 718 GTS for $70K or less and the wheels, tires, and brakes will all transfer from my 981 to the 718 for track and autocross. But a GT3 is a GT3. Albeit ludicrous for our tiny autocross space (for which the Cayman would be perfect).
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Sad. Porsche needs a reasonably attainable sports car as the 911 is too big and too expensive now IMO.