How many 15-16 gt3's have engine replaced?
#1561
RL Community Team
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Rennlist Member
I thought everyone had it, no?
#1562
Again just my interpretation but I think specific warranty coverage for track use has always been a bit loose and in Porsche's favor. Since starting the track hobby/sport in 2012 I've always assumed I was taking some risk of warranty denial.
#1564
Nordschleife Master
The way I've seen it and I admit,one of the biggest selling points over the 997 GT cars was the TRACK WARRANTY. If that warranty only applies to cheap thermostats,coils and brake pucks/and not to 90K dollars engines...then it's not ok...and I see it as a stab in the back.
#1565
Rennlist Member
There is a difference in the "driving on a race circuit booklets". It appears only the 2014 cars have the statement about warranty coverage, it is pretty clear with the use of the word "if".
#1566
Burning Brakes
My 2012 Panamera Turbo warranty booklet and the 2014 GT3 booklet are identical in content except for the cover that reads Model Year 2012 and Model Year 2014. Hard to believe PCNA/PAG not honoring track related issues with the GT3/RS at least for US models.
#1567
Quickly researched Porsche's behaviour when the IMS issue came up as LEVD had suggested. Anyone else thinks we may be SOL with the GT3/RS motor design flaw when the warranty period ends?
#1568
Rennlist Member
My 2015 with an 11/14 build did not come with the track booklet. I asked for it twice but never received it.
#1569
RL Community Team
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(My apologies, but I don't mean to come off as glib.)
#1571
In the case of the GT-R, most do not have GPS limiters. That was a feature on Japanese market cars. All GT-Rs have "black boxes". When a fault is triggered (CEL or otherwise) a data snapshot is captured. Additionally, the black box has a recording of driving data. The combination of this data can then be used to identify issues and verify circumstances in warranty claims. For example, if the black box sees a modification to the ECU and sustained 30 psi from the turbos before a failure, coverage is likely to be denied, regardless of whether or not the customer returned it to stock before bringing it into the dealership.
Either way, ethics aside, misrepresenting the circumstances of failures is not going to be an effective solution.
#1572
Rennlist Member
Some good news.
Wrote a very detailed letter to my Porsche dealer today detailing my case, the fact that it was a known problem, that I was not given advance notice that I may have to pay, how much money I had spent on PCars in the last 18 months, highlight the track warranty conditions in the booklet that I had complied with, etc....and that if they did not positively resolve the situation I would marshal social media globally via Porsche forums.
I sent the email to my dealer at 1pm. My dealer forwarded it to PAG at around 2pm. Then at 5:30pm I got an email from my dealer saying that PAG had agreed to do the work under warranty.
Faith restored, if a little tarnished.
Wrote a very detailed letter to my Porsche dealer today detailing my case, the fact that it was a known problem, that I was not given advance notice that I may have to pay, how much money I had spent on PCars in the last 18 months, highlight the track warranty conditions in the booklet that I had complied with, etc....and that if they did not positively resolve the situation I would marshal social media globally via Porsche forums.
I sent the email to my dealer at 1pm. My dealer forwarded it to PAG at around 2pm. Then at 5:30pm I got an email from my dealer saying that PAG had agreed to do the work under warranty.
Faith restored, if a little tarnished.
#1573
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
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Some good news.
Wrote a very detailed letter to my Porsche dealer today detailing my case, the fact that it was a known problem, that I was not given advance notice that I may have to pay, how much money I had spent on PCars in the last 18 months, highlight the track warranty conditions in the booklet that I had complied with, etc....and that if they did not positively resolve the situation I would marshal social media globally via Porsche forums.
I sent the email to my dealer at 1pm. My dealer forwarded it to PAG at around 2pm. Then at 5:30pm I got an email from my dealer saying that PAG had agreed to do the work under warranty.
Faith restored, if a little tarnished.
Wrote a very detailed letter to my Porsche dealer today detailing my case, the fact that it was a known problem, that I was not given advance notice that I may have to pay, how much money I had spent on PCars in the last 18 months, highlight the track warranty conditions in the booklet that I had complied with, etc....and that if they did not positively resolve the situation I would marshal social media globally via Porsche forums.
I sent the email to my dealer at 1pm. My dealer forwarded it to PAG at around 2pm. Then at 5:30pm I got an email from my dealer saying that PAG had agreed to do the work under warranty.
Faith restored, if a little tarnished.
#1574
Nordschleife Master
Some good news. Wrote a very detailed letter to my Porsche dealer today detailing my case, the fact that it was a known problem, that I was not given advance notice that I may have to pay, how much money I had spent on PCars in the last 18 months, highlight the track warranty conditions in the booklet that I had complied with, etc....and that if they did not positively resolve the situation I would marshal social media globally via Porsche forums. I sent the email to my dealer at 1pm. My dealer forwarded it to PAG at around 2pm. Then at 5:30pm I got an email from my dealer saying that PAG had agreed to do the work under warranty. Faith restored, if a little tarnished.
I'm sure they're reading this thread. They don't want this to become more than it is.
#1575
Three Wheelin'
Some good news.
Wrote a very detailed letter to my Porsche dealer today detailing my case, the fact that it was a known problem, that I was not given advance notice that I may have to pay, how much money I had spent on PCars in the last 18 months, highlight the track warranty conditions in the booklet that I had complied with, etc....and that if they did not positively resolve the situation I would marshal social media globally via Porsche forums.
I sent the email to my dealer at 1pm. My dealer forwarded it to PAG at around 2pm. Then at 5:30pm I got an email from my dealer saying that PAG had agreed to do the work under warranty.
Faith restored, if a little tarnished.
Wrote a very detailed letter to my Porsche dealer today detailing my case, the fact that it was a known problem, that I was not given advance notice that I may have to pay, how much money I had spent on PCars in the last 18 months, highlight the track warranty conditions in the booklet that I had complied with, etc....and that if they did not positively resolve the situation I would marshal social media globally via Porsche forums.
I sent the email to my dealer at 1pm. My dealer forwarded it to PAG at around 2pm. Then at 5:30pm I got an email from my dealer saying that PAG had agreed to do the work under warranty.
Faith restored, if a little tarnished.
This is a design issue through and through. No question. It is not a money shift thing, where user error cause failure. They should be happy most of us are testing the engine for them.