cool911air

Year: 1991
Make: Porsche
Model: 911
Cont. Porsche Models: 964 C2
Mileage (numbers only please): 13000
Options (Please check ALL which apply): Air Conditioning, Alarm System, Antilock Brakes, Leather Seats, Power Brakes, Power Door Locks, Power Steering, Power Windows
Color: sand beige cc:6807
VIN: WP0ZZZ96ZMS403903
Price (no $ sign please): $190000
Private or Dealer Listing: Private Listing
Location (Region): Europe
Body Style: Coupe
Transmission Type: Manual - 5 speed
2 or 4 Wheel Drive?: 2 Wheel Drive
Engine Type: Fuel Injection
Stereo System: AM-FM Stereo

Just in case you did not get the right christmas present,
now you have annother chance...
With the actual $/€ exchange rate this might be a real opportunity for you!

As a private listing I decided to sell this car @ rennlist only !

You find it also on classicdriver.com and collectorscarworld.com
however there it's sold thru an agent for a different price.
http://collectorscarworld.com/news/g...inger-porsche/

It's our car #5 and you may have seen pictures about this car in other threads or in our gallery in this forum.

I purchased the donor car in 2014 and the restomod project finished 08/2015.
We have a full documentation of the project, basically everything got renewed.
Just too much information to outline it now.

Rather shoot me an email with any questions.

I am selling to make room for RSVT#6 our next project....

Detlef Schmuda
detlef.schmuda@t-online.de

SGS

Amazing

bronson7

Very nice.

Rom911

Beautiful! GLWS

993Brendan

Wow!

cjd92

Great looking car!

skl

A "poor man's" Singer????

hf1

Yes, first thought that came to mind was: Singer? Amazing car.
GLWS!

Spyerx

LOOKS fantastic.
what has been done to the Motor, Transmission, brakes, and chassis/suspension (other than the KWs)?

cool911air

Thanks Spyerx, think you are spot on with your description.
We don't want to copy Singer! We see ourselves rather in a kind of triangle with them and perhaps what Magnus Walker is doing.
Automatically you get overlaps when you build a longhood hotrod based on a 964.
Before I try to explain too much, go to

You should find most of the answers to your questions there!
Sorry for the bad English and the length of the video...

BR Detlef

cool911air

Sorry forgot one point which is not mentioned in the video.
We put in the diff lock from the 996 GT3!
BR Detlef

rg0115

Love it

cool911air

Spyerx, yesterday I replyed by just sending you to our video and I thought
... this will do it.... and now I found your 'MY 964C2 Tranformation Build Thread'

I think I have to be honest and appologize... I got mislead because the other guys where putting us directly in the Singer corner.

Now I understand your background and how you use your cars.
And I may say this is exactly our approach.
We build GO cars not (primarily) SHOW cars.
We went thru all the issues (pleasures) you had with your red 964 when we buildt our five cars.
And now I have a problem, because I can't spend all the time and effort
to go in all the details like you in your thread....

It is so easy to answer all questions by being on a track with your friends
or doing a ride thru the canyons. Then the car speaks for itself....

But let me try to explain how we appraoch our projects in general.
We break down the system into the main components, which in our opinion are influencing the final performance of the car:

Weight desired ? (distribution)
Power ? (optimized dyno curve)
Drive Train ? (gerabox, trans,slip diff.....)
Stiffness ? (Rollcage, bar,....)
Suspension system?
Break system?
Aerodynamics?
Wheels?
Tires?

and we define the goals of all these building blocks based on the
INTENDED USE. We defined 3 categories for us (sorry)

Coffee Shopper
Canyon Driver
Race

But perhaps even more important is the question

How capable, talented is the driver really?
You easily build a phantastic race car for someone who can not handle it.
I attach a photo of perhaps such a car with somebody who loved it...
I'm not sure the current owner can deal with the prefered set up of this gentleman.....

And don't get me wrong, I'm myself far from his kind of talent!!
Our Beige Beauty is clearly a Canyon Driver focussed car,
you know that the boarders are floating.
For sure we can go on a track and we go to a cars and coffee occasionally...

But we have the luxury of having 2 partners close by for the perfect set up
when we design / build such a car like the Beige car for sale.

That's Ewald Schärtl, who in my opinion builds the best aircooled EFI Motors in Germany

and KW Suspension with headquarters and dynamic test bench in Fichtenberg.

Unfortunately I can't proove that to you guys in the US...

I like very much the video of Mr. Olsen with his 'One car to do it all' where
we learn that suspension set up makes the car faster than just adding bhp
and how important aerodymanics are.

One thing I find is not discussed enough (at least I have not seen it in your thread) is TIRES.

One example of our experience:

We used mostly Michelin TB 5R Tires for our restomods until recently.
W sign (competition) said OK for 280 Km/h speed...
On tracks you may be faster 250 but only for a very short timeframe.
On a German Autobahn at night on the way back from Spa or the Nürburgring
our cars reached 280 for minutes..... and the tires may burst (always on the right rear side). Fortunately never an accident, but disapointing anyway.
The old cars with the short trans obviously never reached that top speed....

With the Beige car we switched therefor to Pirelli P7 Corsa Classic, no bad experience yet. The other alternative is change trans, short axle...

Again, sorry Spyerx to put you in the wrong basket.

Detlef

speednme

Who cares about the car they "killed". It's a cool build with performance to back it up. As far as fit and finish?..how can you tell from the video(not the best)? Without putting hand to metal...too bad the price is well above my budget...I would be all over this..by the way Singer was not the first to backdate 964's..so not everyone is trying to build a Singer....

Indiana Jones

Without doing much research into this build...a good outlaw backdate build starts around the 250k mark. Ton of variables, but by the looks of it, she was built well. Singers run 450-550k, almost all being built now are over 500k and IF their owner decides to sell, he/she is able to fetch a premium. Wevo made an awesome outlaw backdate build and they are not making anymore due to the time and resources it takes...they offered to build one for me in the neighborhood of 300k. Prices are steep for these long hood backdates, but if done correctly, they are fantastic.