Towing close to the limit
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Towing close to the limit
I am in the process of acquiring a track car and trailer. Problem is that the enclosed trailer will put me at the limit of both the tongue weight and carrying weight. (500/5000). I am looking at 500/4800 here. Should I ditch the enclosed for my open or try it or buy a beater car.
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Or rent the tow vehicle (pick-up) from Enterprise, but for everyone's sake, don't push the tow limits. Highway speeds and downhill grades are the limit breakers, eliminating them reduces the risk near the limit, but we all know as we get comfortable - pace follows. In Europe, the same vehicles can tow more load, but the laws restrict there speeds to pedestrian pace (60-90kmh). U-Haul tries to get renters to go slower with "stickers" and governors. No getting around physics.
That 200lbs difference can easily disappear with a passenger or luggage or tires. The real limit is both towing capacity & GVW of the tow vehicle which can be easily be overload by 200 lbs.
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That 200lbs difference can easily disappear with a passenger or luggage or tires. The real limit is both towing capacity & GVW of the tow vehicle which can be easily be overload by 200 lbs.
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Better read the owners manual as well because on some vehicles a WDH is required for the listed max tongue weight.
Better read the owners manual as well because on some vehicles a WDH is required for the listed max tongue weight.
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Did you not read? I said close to the limit (80-90%) not exceeding it. This is not a Mini Cooper with a snow plow. Every weight is within limit. It’s just a matter if it is a good idea or not.
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Without specifics, I would say no.
Towing exactly 5000 lbs behind motorhome rated for 5k I probably would not worry too much. It may be a little slow, but probably safe.
Towing exactly 5000 lbs behind motorhome rated for 5k I probably would not worry too much. It may be a little slow, but probably safe.
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Don't forget that it is not just the weight rating. Towing 5000lbs of bricks stacked 12" high on an open trailer is much easier than a 5000lbs enclosed trailer standing 6' tall and 24' long. A small sailboat has less sail area than the average enclosed car trailer. The open will not be buffeted by cross-winds, has a lower center of gravity, weight is more easily balanced over the axles, etc. I suspect that vehicle tow ratings were developed assuming an open trailer with a flat load, and not a bulky box trailer.
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When I picked up my enclosed trailex EMPTY, I towed it back with an Acura MDX rated for 5k max towing. You will feel the cross winds even when empty for the enclosed. I did tow a open trailex previously to WGI and that was fine. However after towing the empty enclosed trailex back, I promptly traded in the MDX for a full size SUV - QX80. I then towed with a cayenne diesel, which does an really good job btw. Better than the QX80 despite being a much smaller SUV.
I know have a 1500 Sierra duramax and I wish I had that in the beginning.
I know have a 1500 Sierra duramax and I wish I had that in the beginning.
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When I picked up my enclosed trailex EMPTY, I towed it back with an Acura MDX rated for 5k max towing. You will feel the cross winds even when empty for the enclosed. I did tow a open trailex previously to WGI and that was fine. However after towing the empty enclosed trailex back, I promptly traded in the MDX for a full size SUV - QX80. I then towed with a cayenne diesel, which does an really good job btw. Better than the QX80 despite being a much smaller SUV.
I know have a 1500 Sierra duramax and I wish I had that in the beginning.
I know have a 1500 Sierra duramax and I wish I had that in the beginning.
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Originally Posted by coss1600
I am in the process of acquiring a track car and trailer. Problem is that the enclosed trailer will put me at the limit of both the tongue weight and carrying weight. (500/5000). I am looking at 500/4800 here. Should I ditch the enclosed for my open or try it or buy a beater car.
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