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Old Aug 22, 2023 | 10:14 PM
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I’m hearing conflicting info - but wanted to check here. Does buying a CPO Taycan extend the battery warranty at all?

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Old Aug 22, 2023 | 10:18 PM
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I’m hearing conflicting info - but wanted to check here. Does buying a CPO Taycan extend the battery warranty at all?
unlikely - battery is 8 years/100,000 miles - but I'd consult the CPO documents.
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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 23109vc
I’m hearing conflicting info - but wanted to check here. Does buying a CPO<!--td {border: 1px solid #cccccc;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}-->Tutuapp 9Apps Taycan extend the battery warranty at all?
I don't think it's included but you have to verify yourself
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at leas than 8 year and 100,000 miles there is _NO_ issue - battery warranty covers it…you do not need CPO - a non-CPO Taycan has this coverage.

if you have a battery issue @ 7.2 years and 98,000 miles - you're covered by the original battery factory warranty - you do not need CPO to cover it.

so the question is…at 5.8 years & 112,732 miles you have an issue w/Battery - what would Porsche do?

thinking about this more…I think we're in slightly uncharted territory…

Factory Warranty is 4 years/50,000 in US
CPO is 6 years/unlimited in US

the Taycan has a 8 year/100,000 warranty battery/drive train

so the only window for battery vs. CPO is > 6 years (6.5 years from original sale) & over 100,000 miles

there is no issue for the battery warranty until it's over 8 years _OR_ 100,000 miles - and CPO only covers 6 years...

so I think the issue is will Porsche cover a CPO issue w/Battery if milage is over 100,000 miles but less than 6 years…that's the 'grey area" - which may not be so grey if they excluded the battery from CPO and say the battery warranty stands on it's own…

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Originally Posted by daveo4porsche
at leas than 8 year and 100,000 miles there is _NO_ issue - battery warranty covers it…you do not need CPO - a non-CPO Taycan has this coverage.

if you have a battery issue @ 7.2 years and 98,000 miles - you're covered by the original battery factory warranty - you do not need CPO to cover it.

so the question is…at 5.8 years & 112,732 miles you have an issue w/Battery - what would Porsche do?

thinking about this more…I think we're in slightly uncharted territory…

Factory Warranty is 4 years/50,000 in US
CPO is 6 years/unlimited in US

the Taycan has a 8 year/100,000 warranty battery/drive train

so the only window for battery vs. CPO is > 6 years (6.5 years from original sale) & over 100,000 miles

there is no issue for the battery warranty until it's over 8 years _OR_ 100,000 miles - and CPO only covers 6 years...

so I think the issue is will Porsche cover a CPO issue w/Battery if milage is over 100,000 miles but less than 6 years…that's the 'grey area" - which may not be so grey if they excluded the battery from CPO and say the battery warranty stands on it's own…
I don't think I would want to own any Taycan at over 100k miles, warranty or not.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I don't think I would want to own any Taycan at over 100k miles, warranty or not.
I share the fear but being devils advocate I think there are some pretty high mileage model S's running around.
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Yes, the Porsche Taycan CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) program includes the battery. The battery has an 8-year/100,000-mile warranty, whichever comes first. This is the same warranty that is offered on new Taycans.

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Originally Posted by flygdchman
I share the fear but being devils advocate I think there are some pretty high mileage model S's running around.
The thing with a Tesla is that they don't really make hardware -- or engineering -- improvements in their car. A Model S is basically the same car as it was 10 years ago with some minor tweaks here and there. Model S hasn't received a major exterior face-lift since 2016

The major iterative changes are software, which Tesla can do with OTA updates.

With a Taycan, each generation will see not insignificant improvements in chassis design, interior UX, and perhaps even EV drivetrain and battery tech. That's what I fear.

A 2023 Taycan will not age well in 2 or 3 years, to say nothing of 6 or 7.

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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
The thing with a Tesla is that they don't really make hardware -- or engineering -- improvements in their car. A Model S is basically the same car as it was 10 years ago with some minor tweaks here and there. Model S hasn't received a major exterior face-lift since 2016

The major iterative changes are software, which Tesla can do with OTA updates.

With a Taycan, each generation will see not insignificant improvements in chassis design, interior UX, and perhaps even EV drivetrain and battery tech. That's what I fear.

A 2023 Taycan will not age well in 2 or 3 years, to say nothing of 6 or 7.
I feel like my Taycan ST is a mix of a 911 and my wife's Macan, just like how it looks. The drive both in power and handling is, like you said, effortless. I was thinking of having that on my license plate before you described it that way btw. Decided not to as it sounds too pretentious. I don't think I'll be selling the car anytime soon because there will be a newer / better in 2 or 3 years, 6 or 7 years and think this will be a long time keeper. The only questions i have is what will be the max range 10 years from now or, 20 years from now, whether it will matter and, whether it will have a major electrical issue out of warranty. Just wish it had a normal roof.

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Thankfully I won't have this problem as I churn through my business cars every 18-24 months.
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Originally Posted by JAMEYS123
Yes, the Porsche Taycan CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) program includes the battery. The battery has an 8-year/100,000-mile warranty, whichever comes first. This is the same warranty that is offered on new Taycans.
This would say that CPO doesn't alter the factory battery warranty which is the baseline assumption until somebody shows in writing that it does.
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Originally Posted by flygdchman
I share the fear but being devils advocate I think there are some pretty high mileage model S's running around.
Those high mileage S’s are on their second or third battery. Astonishingly, thanks to crap build quality. Tesla’s motors also wear out with the miles. Drivetrain replacements for high mileage Teslas isn’t uncommon.

I have no doubt that most Taycans will make it to 100k on their original battery and motor(s). That being said, I also have no doubt that the market value used will be something well below $40-50k. It’s clear that they’re depreciating like any luxury sedan. Heck, old Panameras dip into the low 20s and even teens.
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Originally Posted by detansinn
Those high mileage S’s are on their second or third battery. Astonishingly, thanks to crap build quality. Tesla’s motors also wear out with the miles. Drivetrain replacements for high mileage Teslas isn’t uncommon.

I have no doubt that most Taycans will make it to 100k on their original battery and motor(s). That being said, I also have no doubt that the market value used will be something well below $40-50k. It’s clear that they’re depreciating like any luxury sedan. Heck, old Panameras dip into the low 20s and even teens.
data on this - my data indicates different with EV motors lasting very very long time - other than statistical failures in line with expectations.

I do not believe your assertions to be true - do you have sources. Batteries yes - but even then not a lot - but EV motors do not often fail.
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Originally Posted by daveo4porsche
data on this - my data indicates different with EV motors lasting very very long time - other than statistical failures in line with expectations.

I do not believe your assertions to be true - do you have sources. Batteries yes - but even then not a lot - but EV motors do not often fail.
Right. I think that the MS had some early motor issues that by now have been corrected.
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