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Old Aug 28, 2022 | 09:29 AM
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Does anyone know if the current high capacity battery in the '22/'23 Taycan models will be able to have mileage extended with new upgrades. While they are upgrading software in all cars to the '23 software not a lot of conversation about extending battery range for current batteries
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bump...Has anyone seen the official EPA range on the 2023 Taycan? It seems like it was a big call out with the announcement of the new updates, but it's been months and the website still says TBD. Has it leaked anywhere?
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same battery. the new updates make the car more efficient, primarily in range mode. The earlier cars had a low epa rating so I think the 23's will end up being closer to the actual range.
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Originally Posted by white6speed
Does anyone know if the current high capacity battery in the '22/'23 Taycan models will be able to have mileage extended with new upgrades. While they are upgrading software in all cars to the '23 software not a lot of conversation about extending battery range for current batteries
This may give you some information that you are seeking:

https://electrek.co/2022/10/14/porsc...tware-updates/
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 05:41 AM
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i think the range increases are about the max capable out of the current battery pack.

its a 93.4 kWh pack, but it's not all useable, true of all EVs. this "buffer" is important in maximizing battery pack longevity.
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 12:52 PM
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It seems to me that until there is a more energy dense battery for Taycan the range improvements will be incremental at best?
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When I first received my 2021 CT and drove a few trips the onboard range estimate was 212 miles at 100%. After the recent update and some driving the onboard estimate is 255 miles. 20% increase is not bad. Maybe more tweaking to come.
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When I took delivery of our 2022 GTS ST, it showed 360 km (223 miles) at 100%. Now it shows 440km - 500km (273 - 311 miles) at 100%. The 2023 software update was just done yesterday, so all of this gain was simply to do with driving style (and as I understand it, the GTS models didn't get any bump in range with the update anyway). My wife is mostly driving the car, and she's generally cruising around town and running errands vs. aggressive driving or fast highway driving.

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When I first received my 2021 CT and drove a few trips the onboard range estimate was 212 miles at 100%. After the recent update and some driving the onboard estimate is 255 miles. 20% increase is not bad. Maybe more tweaking to come.
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I look at the need for increased energy density and I’m concerned about the safety of EVs in general. 787 comes to mind. Ft. Meyers comes to mind.
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Originally Posted by vanlieremead
I look at the need for increased energy density and I’m concerned about the safety of EVs in general. 787 comes to mind. Ft. Meyers comes to mind.
It is a common anti-EV talking point. But folks forget that every ICE car has a tank full of very combustible gas in it. Way back when I bought my 944 (1987), Porsche did a recall on the fuel injection hoses because the original versions were prone to leakage, and resulting fire. And a few years earlier, my mother had a nearly new Cadillac Eldorado turn into a "car b que" for similar reasons. (Fortunately she got out of the car before it became fully engulfed in flames. Dad said there was virtually nothing left of the car after the fire.)

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Originally Posted by whiz944
It is a common anti-EV talking point.
Perhaps but perhaps not. Wait until there are millions of them. We just don’t have the in service experience that we have with the ICE. Glad things worked out for you for sure.

https://news.yahoo.com/electric-vehi...224822440.html

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Originally Posted by vanlieremead
Perhaps but perhaps not. Wait until there are millions of them. We just don’t have the in service experience that we have with the ICE. Glad things worked out for you for sure.

https://news.yahoo.com/electric-vehi...224822440.html
There already are millions of EVs. The Tesla fleet alone passed 3 million last summer. By this time next year they should be closing in on 5 million. VAG, Nissan, GM, and various Chinese manufacturers are well into the hundreds of thousands each.
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Far higher % of ICE vehicles catch fire versus BEVs.
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Originally Posted by thebishman
Far higher % of ICE vehicles catch fire versus BEVs.
please post your data that supports this comment.

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We're getting off topic, but as of 2022, BEVs are catching fire MUCH less often the ICE vehicles. The data comes from the NTSB, and the numbers are rates, so already scaled to account for the relative difference in the number of each type of vehicle sold. Seeing numbers per mile driven would be even better, but the main point is that the BEV fire risk appears to be more fear than reality. See: https://www.autoinsuranceez.com/gas-...ric-car-fires/


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