Which L2 Home Charger to Get?
08-11-2022, 11:48 PM
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08-13-2022, 08:56 AM
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my 3 favorite home non-mobile chargers are:
ClipperCreek and/or the Tesla Wall charger can "share" a circuit with another charger - so that you can charge 2 EV's at home and yet only have one 240 volt circuit - and it will split the load when charging 2 EV's or provide the entire breaker capacity to one EV when only one is charging - this is multiple EV ownership happiness.
if you have the 19.2 kw Charging option on your Taycan
I recommend the 100 amp ClipperCreek _OR_ the Porsche Wall Charger connect - but you'll need your electrician to install a 100 amp 240 V circuit (breaker+wire) to power either one of these EVSE's - but if you do invest in level of setup you would be able to charge your Taycan w/19.2 kW charging option from empty to 100% in less than 6 hours…
EVSE's are not vendor or vehicle specific - so installing one of these is for your current and future EV's and you will not (should not) need to change anything for your next EV) and they will also charge your wife's Cayenne eHybrid, F150 EV, Rivian, or your Macan EV…so this is a one time thing and a resource for your garage - you don't need to swap these out every time you bring home a new EV.
- ClipperCreek 50-100 amp (pick your size) - the 60 amp's a great choice and will maximize your standard Taycan charge rate of 11 kW - dual charge split load support - 60 amp breaker (48 amp charge rate) $989
- Porsche Wall Charger (adjustable 15-100 amp breaker) - $1586
- Tesla Wall Charger (adjustable from 15 to 60 amps) - multiple charger (up to 16) split load support - $400 - * - Requires TeslaTap or similar to use with standard J-1772 EV's
ClipperCreek and/or the Tesla Wall charger can "share" a circuit with another charger - so that you can charge 2 EV's at home and yet only have one 240 volt circuit - and it will split the load when charging 2 EV's or provide the entire breaker capacity to one EV when only one is charging - this is multiple EV ownership happiness.
if you have the 19.2 kw Charging option on your Taycan
I recommend the 100 amp ClipperCreek _OR_ the Porsche Wall Charger connect - but you'll need your electrician to install a 100 amp 240 V circuit (breaker+wire) to power either one of these EVSE's - but if you do invest in level of setup you would be able to charge your Taycan w/19.2 kW charging option from empty to 100% in less than 6 hours…
EVSE's are not vendor or vehicle specific - so installing one of these is for your current and future EV's and you will not (should not) need to change anything for your next EV) and they will also charge your wife's Cayenne eHybrid, F150 EV, Rivian, or your Macan EV…so this is a one time thing and a resource for your garage - you don't need to swap these out every time you bring home a new EV.
I already have a Tesla charger I was not using anymore but still in function .
If I get this right, I could just use the Tesla Tap and be done! Correct?
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08-13-2022, 09:37 AM
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the Taycan's standard onboard L2 charger is 11 kW maximum L2/AC charge rate - that translates into a 60 amp circuit breaker and/or 48 amp charge rate.
_IF_ you option the 19.2 kW onboard charger upgrade - the Taycan supports 19.2 kW charge rate - that translates into a 100 amp circuit breaker and/or 80 amp charge rate
But both Mobile and Wall mounted Tesla chargers work great for charging any/all EV's if you have a TeslaTap (or similar adapter).
08-13-2022, 09:47 AM
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If you have a TeslaTap you in your non-Tesla can also use these chargers should you encounter them in the wild…with a TeslaTap (or similar) you can then charge your Taycan (or any EV or PHEV) at any/all Tesla Destination chargers & any normal Public EV chargers - it's win/win and a really really useful for any EV owner.
NOTE: TeslaTap does NOT allow/enable/bridge access to the Supercharger network in North America - that will require a much more complex adapter or addition of CCS cables to existing Supercharger stalls - which one will Elon choose? Someone knows, bu they ain't talking so far…
If you own an EV you should invest in a TeslaTap…it will make life easier for you - there are a LOT of Tesla Destination chargers just sitting there for you to use if you have one of these adapters.
08-13-2022, 09:52 AM
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my guide to a "simple" EV Roadwarrior "kit" that is good for anyone planning to road trip their EV (Taycan or otherwise)…read, enjoy, or ignore - but something like this means when you're away from home you'll have a pretty good chance of charging anywhere under any circumstance if you have this sort of "kit" in your Frunk…
the "goal" is simple - I never wanted to be anywhere in North America with my EV and staring at a pefectly functional EV charger or bare-Electrical outlet and couldn't charge because I lacked a $27.67 adapter - but what set of adapters should I have? Well this posting _IS_ that guide…and like first aid kits, rarely used, but awesome when you need it.
link below…
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/th...ging-kit.6812/
the "goal" is simple - I never wanted to be anywhere in North America with my EV and staring at a pefectly functional EV charger or bare-Electrical outlet and couldn't charge because I lacked a $27.67 adapter - but what set of adapters should I have? Well this posting _IS_ that guide…and like first aid kits, rarely used, but awesome when you need it.
link below…
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/th...ging-kit.6812/
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12-11-2022, 01:00 AM
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I initially bought a Juice Box on Amazon but then saw that they had a $50 off coupon on the WallBox which made it $150 cheaper so I returned the Juice Box and have the WallBox on the way this coming week.
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12-11-2022, 02:36 AM
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wallbox is a GREAT choice - you'll have trouble free operation for your Taycan and all you future EV's.
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12-11-2022, 04:15 PM
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I have a plug in Juice Box and my son has a hardwired version. I paid $599 at Costco. So far so good. There was an receptacle 14-50 R in my garage. For good luck I upgraded it to a Hubbell receptacle. The Cooper receptacle that was in there already was in good shape with no signs of overheating.
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12-11-2022, 04:36 PM
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I have the Tesla J1772 model at one house, the ChargePoint at the other, both hardwired using a 60A circuit breaker and set to 50A.
The ChargePoint is a more thought out design, where the Tesla's cable interferes with the plug when put away.
The ChargePoint is a more thought out design, where the Tesla's cable interferes with the plug when put away.
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12-12-2022, 11:50 AM
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12-12-2022, 02:00 PM
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01-16-2023, 12:51 PM
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Replaced my 6-50 outlet provided by my electrification for my welder with the recommended Hubbell 6-50 outlet. I will say it feels more substantial in every way than the one provided for my welder and plasma cutter. It was very easy to install my self. One trick I saw from an electrician on line is to tighten the cables as tight as you can and repeat working them back and forth and re-tighten. I was amazed on how much additional tightening took place by using this method. Thanks for all the info.
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