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Old 12-03-2021 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
This isn’t really true. The investments were capitalized and expensed relatively consistent with production. Tesla did not have the gross margin to be profitable until this year and their historical CFROI is still not pretty. But they’re playing the long game.

They’re still way overvalued IMO, and I own the stock.
I don't own individual stocks, I'm too lazy, but I agree with you that Tesla is currently way overvalued. This was a good read: https://www.barrons.com/articles/tes...on-51636053056 . If Tesla could consistently increase their sales by %50 year after year they might be able to eventually catch up to their market valuation. But that is a risky proposition now that there is a lot of competition coming online.

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Old 12-03-2021 | 08:34 PM
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I don't own individual stocks, I'm too lazy, but I agree with you that Tesla is currently way overvalued. This was a good read: https://www.barrons.com/articles/tes...on-51636053056 . If Tesla could consistently increase their sales by %50 year after year they might be able to eventually catch up to their market valuation. But that is a risky proposition now that there is a lot of competition coming online.
With the opening of Austin and Berlin factories, they will probably come close to doubling sales in 2022 vs 2021. After that, I think deliveries will continue to increase, but not at the same rate. Cybertruck is rumored to have over one million preorders that will hit production in late 2022 and then 2023. That doesn't take into account Tesla Energy - which is also growing very fast.

If you want to see an overvalued stock, look at RIVN. They've gotten a lot of good reviews of the R1T. But they have yet to face "production h*ll". By the time they start to get things figured out, Ford will have the F150 Lightning, GM will have the Silverado EV, and Tesla will have the Cybertruck in production. And Bezos wants his Amazon delivery vans - not R1Ts...
Old 12-04-2021 | 09:55 AM
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Why anyone would pay 100k for a porsche SUV is beyond me. I almost get the 4 door sedan but again much better products from jeep, bmw tahoe even hiundi. And even at the same ridiculous cost and maitrnance at least land rovers aren't ugly. I would buy a Taycan if I had unlimited $$$. Worlds fastest golf cart


Originally Posted by AnandN
Taycan is priced like a 911. It is as fast ( when comparing similar trims), has pretty decent handling (from what I’ve read), is roomier, is quieter, is more comfortable and looks cool. Why wouldn’t it outsell a hard-riding sports car. The Macan outsells the 911 by 5:1 and that looks like a toad.
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Why anyone would pay 100k for a porsche SUV is beyond me. I almost get the 4 door sedan but again much better products from jeep, bmw tahoe even hiundi. And even at the same ridiculous cost and maitrnance at least land rovers aren't ugly. I would buy a Taycan if I had unlimited $$$. Worlds fastest golf cart
Just be thankful that people buy a ton of Porsche SUVs that allows Porsche to make awesome limited cars like the GT3RS and GT4RS.
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Old 12-05-2021 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bud Taylor
Why anyone would pay 100k for a porsche SUV is beyond me. I almost get the 4 door sedan but again much better products from jeep, bmw tahoe even hiundi. And even at the same ridiculous cost and maitrnance at least land rovers aren't ugly. I would buy a Taycan if I had unlimited $$$. Worlds fastest golf cart
better in what way? Driving certainly isn’t one of them.
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Old 12-05-2021 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bud Taylor
Why anyone would pay 100k for a porsche SUV is beyond me. I almost get the 4 door sedan but again much better products from jeep, bmw tahoe even hiundi.
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Old 12-06-2021 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bud Taylor
Why anyone would pay 100k for a porsche SUV is beyond me. I almost get the 4 door sedan but again much better products from jeep, bmw tahoe even hiundi. And even at the same ridiculous cost and maitrnance at least land rovers aren't ugly. I would buy a Taycan if I had unlimited $$$. Worlds fastest golf cart
Bud, I assume this is satire.... Jeep? That's good sarcasm.



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