Forget Range Tests-Actual Day to Day Range While Having Fun
02-15-2023, 12:18 PM
#31
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I’m getting about the same, 85% SOC = about 215 miles of range on 21” wheels and air temps in 40s. However, my experience has been that speed really drives the consumption. In my 63 mile commute, I typically consume 75 miles of range at 80 MPH with no HVAC. Consumption is about 43 KWH/100 miles. Not very efficient, but fun and good looking.
03-23-2023, 01:58 PM
#33
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In my NA 993 - I used to average 200 mi / tank in mixed driving when I DD'd it.
In my Carrera T - I average 230 mi / tank in mixed driving DD'ing it.
(of course, both much higher on the Hwy - but I rarely use them this way).
I've just ordered at T4S - 220 mi / charge is just fine for 95% of my use, and we use the wife's car for the other 5%.
In my Carrera T - I average 230 mi / tank in mixed driving DD'ing it.
(of course, both much higher on the Hwy - but I rarely use them this way).
I've just ordered at T4S - 220 mi / charge is just fine for 95% of my use, and we use the wife's car for the other 5%.
03-23-2023, 02:31 PM
#34
Actually the opposite is true. Charging is not a real business yet. It’s dominated by quasi-socialist government subsidies without a clear understanding of what the mature market looks like. Notably the only really successful charging network belongs to Tesla, and is an integral part of how they differentiate their product in the marketplace.
03-23-2023, 07:34 PM
#35
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Actually the opposite is true. Charging is not a real business yet. It’s dominated by quasi-socialist government subsidies without a clear understanding of what the mature market looks like. Notably the only really successful charging network belongs to Tesla, and is an integral part of how they differentiate their product in the marketplace.
My personal experience in computers is that many companies use the cheapest components they can get away with so as to grab as much profit as possible.
The government tells a company where and how many chargers to install and gives money based on that, but the company making/installing them tries to keep as much money for themselves, and that means cheap parts.
Earl Colby Pottinger (BEV lover)
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03-24-2023, 08:22 AM
#36
If that is true, then why are the non-Tesla chargers so bad. The government is not telling them what hardware to use, the charger companies are.
My personal experience in computers is that many companies use the cheapest components they can get away with so as to grab as much profit as possible.
The government tells a company where and how many chargers to install and gives money based on that, but the company making/installing them tries to keep as much money for themselves, and that means cheap parts.
Earl Colby Pottinger (BEV lover)
My personal experience in computers is that many companies use the cheapest components they can get away with so as to grab as much profit as possible.
The government tells a company where and how many chargers to install and gives money based on that, but the company making/installing them tries to keep as much money for themselves, and that means cheap parts.
Earl Colby Pottinger (BEV lover)
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03-24-2023, 08:24 PM
#37
Three Wheelin'
The good new is that Tesla is adding CCS capability to their chargers..
The Bad new is the CCS companies are getting bought up by oil companies..
EA in Oregon is now SHELL.
I have a Tesla and a Chevy Spark EV (kids car) Fast CCS chargers (20 min on the Spark) are a way more rare beastie than Level 2 CCS (3 hours charge)
I don't know how anyone owns a EV without charging in their garage.. I charge less than once a month on the Tesla at their chargers and maybe I hit a CCS Quick charge about 1.5 times a month.
The solid 200 miles on the Tesla for range means we daily the car and its fine as primary transport.
Fun side fact, both my Daughters LOVE ev's because of the power,, they don't care about the sound they like the zoom... LOL And as 20 something girls they don't travel much by car they fly and rent.
The Bad new is the CCS companies are getting bought up by oil companies..
EA in Oregon is now SHELL.
I have a Tesla and a Chevy Spark EV (kids car) Fast CCS chargers (20 min on the Spark) are a way more rare beastie than Level 2 CCS (3 hours charge)
I don't know how anyone owns a EV without charging in their garage.. I charge less than once a month on the Tesla at their chargers and maybe I hit a CCS Quick charge about 1.5 times a month.
The solid 200 miles on the Tesla for range means we daily the car and its fine as primary transport.
Fun side fact, both my Daughters LOVE ev's because of the power,, they don't care about the sound they like the zoom... LOL And as 20 something girls they don't travel much by car they fly and rent.
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03-25-2023, 11:58 AM
#38
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I drive my 4,614 lb Taycan (79 kW/71 kW usable), 21" Mission E, all seasons (40 PSI F/44 PSI R set at 28F) in low suspension range mode on a 190 mile (182 miles highway) commute each week.
Lowest with no fun is 197 miles (2.8miles/kWh) in freezing weather, highest so far with moderate fun is 249 miles (3.3miles/kWh) at 45F and 10 MPH over.
Hard acceleration seems to be a big factor in efficiency, but there doesn't seem to be much warm weather difference between speeds until 80 MPH.
Feature request: Instantaneous consumption reading
Lowest with no fun is 197 miles (2.8miles/kWh) in freezing weather, highest so far with moderate fun is 249 miles (3.3miles/kWh) at 45F and 10 MPH over.
Hard acceleration seems to be a big factor in efficiency, but there doesn't seem to be much warm weather difference between speeds until 80 MPH.
Feature request: Instantaneous consumption reading
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03-26-2023, 02:13 PM
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03-26-2023, 02:17 PM
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The good new is that Tesla is adding CCS capability to their chargers..
The Bad new is the CCS companies are getting bought up by oil companies..
EA in Oregon is now SHELL.
I have a Tesla and a Chevy Spark EV (kids car) Fast CCS chargers (20 min on the Spark) are a way more rare beastie than Level 2 CCS (3 hours charge)
I don't know how anyone owns a EV without charging in their garage.. I charge less than once a month on the Tesla at their chargers and maybe I hit a CCS Quick charge about 1.5 times a month.
The solid 200 miles on the Tesla for range means we daily the car and its fine as primary transport.
Fun side fact, both my Daughters LOVE ev's because of the power,, they don't care about the sound they like the zoom... LOL And as 20 something girls they don't travel much by car they fly and rent.
The Bad new is the CCS companies are getting bought up by oil companies..
EA in Oregon is now SHELL.
I have a Tesla and a Chevy Spark EV (kids car) Fast CCS chargers (20 min on the Spark) are a way more rare beastie than Level 2 CCS (3 hours charge)
I don't know how anyone owns a EV without charging in their garage.. I charge less than once a month on the Tesla at their chargers and maybe I hit a CCS Quick charge about 1.5 times a month.
The solid 200 miles on the Tesla for range means we daily the car and its fine as primary transport.
Fun side fact, both my Daughters LOVE ev's because of the power,, they don't care about the sound they like the zoom... LOL And as 20 something girls they don't travel much by car they fly and rent.
Like when?
"The Bad new is the CCS companies are getting bought up by oil companies..EA in Oregon is now SHELL."
Hope they fire all the execs at EA
"Fun side fact, both my Daughters LOVE ev's because of the power,, they don't care about the sound they like the zoom... LOL And as 20 something girls..."
You the Gov or State Patrol Chief? Or Judge? To avoid tickets.
Last edited by Dr. G7; 03-26-2023 at 08:51 PM.
03-26-2023, 02:37 PM
#41
If that is true, then why are the non-Tesla chargers so bad. The government is not telling them what hardware to use, the charger companies are.
My personal experience in computers is that many companies use the cheapest components they can get away with so as to grab as much profit as possible.
The government tells a company where and how many chargers to install and gives money based on that, but the company making/installing them tries to keep as much money for themselves, and that means cheap parts.
Earl Colby Pottinger (BEV lover)
My personal experience in computers is that many companies use the cheapest components they can get away with so as to grab as much profit as possible.
The government tells a company where and how many chargers to install and gives money based on that, but the company making/installing them tries to keep as much money for themselves, and that means cheap parts.
Earl Colby Pottinger (BEV lover)
"If that is true, then why are the non-Tesla chargers so bad. The government is not telling them what hardware to use, the charger companies are."
Yes. We own a EV consulting company, we know how four States are implementing. One State just hired two consultants for their EV project, both companies specialize in bridge building and multistory commercial properties. No EV experience, whatsoever. PM me and I'll tell you the State and names of the consulting companies. Hint: The White House EV Czar is from this State. This is the same State that took Dieselgate funds (Volkswagen Environmental Mitigation Trust fund) $19.8 million over three years, and converted old school buses from diesel to LPG. Yes, $19.8 million, old school buses from diesel to LPG.
Do I hear brother-in-law deals?
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03-26-2023, 03:22 PM
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03-26-2023, 10:38 PM
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